Russell and Hal theory

[eellliioottt123]

I think it is possible that very early in the game, Hal was intended to be the leader of the Bullies, with Russell as the leader of the Jocks.

Here are some things that back it up:
1. Originally the final mission of Chapter 1 was a boss fight with Hal in the pool.
2. We know that Hal was a Bully at some point, because of his quote about Russell. It's possible that after deciding that Russell should be the leader of the Bullies, they planned to keep Hal as a regular one for a while.
3. Russell is huge and very stupid, traits that seem to fit Jocks more than Bullies.
4. Russell is the strongest student in the school, and is fought in Chapter 1. Wouldn't it make more sense for him to be fought later in the game, and for the strongest student to be a Jock?

Anyway, this is just a thought I had. What do you think?

[c00ld0c26]

All of this is already known.
This is all true.

[BloodChuckZ]

I sorta wonder why Russell wasn't saved for the end, for usually the toughest boss fight is normally the end battle of a game.  It would have made a lot more sense to have Gary manipulating Russell to the end before running off when Jimmy beat Russell, thereby setting up the Final Showdown.  Woulda made more sense.

[eellliioottt123]

All of this is already known.
This is all true.

Oh, I was unaware that it was confirmed that Russell was once a jock

[SWEGTA]

^That's just a theory.

Also, how come Ted has so little health?
Wouldn't it have made sense to have him be a way tougher boss? Especially since they supposedly 'control' the school to begin with?

[Parker Ogilvie]

It's an interesting hypothesis. Sort of makes you wonder if there was some sort of Beta Greaser which Hal replaced. The Bullies were unmistakably formed later in the game's development so I can imagine that the other cliques would have had a full house by then.

[Nanomachines,son]

I always see Ethan being a greaser

[Al Arlington]

^That's just a theory.

Also, how come Ted has so little health?
Wouldn't it have made sense to have him be a way tougher boss? Especially since they supposedly 'control' the school to begin with?

If you manage to hit Ted before you're allowed too, he actually has Russell health, he'll also say "Bro, I'm on your side!!".

His health reduces to 1% when you've cleared all the Jocks.


Kinda weird.

[SWEGTA]

Would it be possible that they made his health so low for testing purposes, but forgot to change it back to Russell's health?

[Al Arlington]

Sounds plausible, but then again, wouldn't they have made Ted attack instead of running away taunting?

[明日香]

I think Bob would have originally been the Jock's leader, rather than Russell, since Russell may not have been as stupid in the beta, as he was a Punk, instead, then when Bob was removed, Ted was promoted to the leader of the Jocks, and Damon, the Prep, was changed to a Jock, which is also why there are 2 black Jocks, but only 1 black member of the other cliques

[c00ld0c26]

I think Bob would have originally been the Jock's leader, rather than Russell, since Russell may not have been as stupid in the beta, as he was a Punk, instead, then when Bob was removed, Ted was promoted to the leader of the Jocks, and Damon, the Prep, was changed to a Jock, which is also why there are 2 black Jocks, but only 1 black member of the other cliques

Good point.
 
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On other things that has been disscussed on this topic, I think I know why Ted is so easy at the boss fight.
Now, dont you find it kind of wierd that Ted THOMPSON is in the game at all?
I mean, if you had some old guy invent stuff about the game, saying you do horrible things in the game, and get it cancled, why would they want anything related to him in the game?
I think that Ted Thompson was actually a running joke on Jack Thompson.
Showing how he "Rules the school", yet once he steps into fighting someone he gets beat up so easly, so weak....
So R were taunting Jack Thompson throught the game, if he even noticed that.

[BloodChuckZ]

Isn't that odd ?   I do so wonder if Thompson was a known potential adversary during the production of the game ?

[SWEGTA]

Meh. Possible.
He did accuse the game of being a "Columbine Simulator" before it even hit the shelves.

[Nanomachines,son]

I haven't seen any AK47'S in bully. What a fucking dumbass!!