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Offline Sloshy

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Beta Screenshot Inspection -
« on: September 02, 2015, 07:45:44 PM »
Hi. I've been recently comparing the beta-Bullworth environment (via screenshots) while I'm playing.
Anyways, I've always been fascinated by the features of beta bully, so I sometimes observe the aspects of beta bully in-depth from the screenshots to establish inferences.

For example, it's known that Gary was supposed to betray Jimmy during Chapter 2 instead of Chapter 1... this is made evident by the Holiday Special trailer (The one where Gary says "SPANK ME!" lol). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbfxTT6wP1M       
             
Anyways, I was browsing through promotional screenshots, and found one depicting "Russel in the Hole", and it appears that the students spectating are wearing winter clothing (including Gary).

Perhaps this is even more evidence that initially Gary was to play a larger role?

Also (and forgive me if this has already been covered), I was comparing screenshots to in-game, and found that the area between the girls and boys dorm had a beta trashcan. The trashcan appears to have absolutely no opening. This implies that dunking students into trashcans wasn't implemented yet. It's minor, yet I'm still interested.



                       
Also, note the gargoyle-like heads in the screenshots.. I've always been curious on them. I haven't come across a single person to mention them, yet they made Bullworth look gothic. In a cool way, atleast. So, the "heads" were replaced by lights. So we can kind of obtain a grasp at how early/late in Bully development from these screenshots






Anymore info on the heads would be appreciated  :cool: .
So that's all I have for now. Any thoughts?

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Re: Beta Screenshot Inspection -
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2015, 07:53:33 PM »
I never noticed the winter outfits in that pic.
Interesting...

Keep up the research, Sloshy!

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Re: Beta Screenshot Inspection -
« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2015, 08:00:30 PM »
I suppose the Gothic Heads may have been found objectionable ?
And, perhaps night-time lighting was needed in that area ?
Knock out the lights for stealth ?

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Re: Beta Screenshot Inspection -
« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2015, 08:10:33 PM »
Yes of course. They're creepy. Cool, yet creepy. So I'm definitely not surprised they got removed. Especially since it would be illogical, because as you said, there needed to be a light source there during night.

To be honest, I'm wondering if the content was ever recycled. Something creepy like this may have appeared somewhere in the final game (cemetery, Bullworth Vale houses, etc) . Then again, it may have been removed completely like many others.

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Re: Beta Screenshot Inspection -
« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2015, 08:20:51 PM »
Oh, here's another beta picture.


It's just another one displaying how in the beta Jimmy could use the dodgeball (as presented in the previous picture), but I also found that there is another beta trashcan in the background. Yes, yes, enough with the beta trashcans--- Well, I'm also intrigued by this image because I haven't seen it before, so it kind of gives me a new perspective of this area in beta bully.

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Re: Beta Screenshot Inspection -
« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2015, 08:41:33 PM »
Also, another feature I found was that the beta cafeteria had its very own fireplace :) . I don't know if this information is already know, if so sorry for stating the obvious  :cool:


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Re: Beta Screenshot Inspection -
« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2015, 08:57:49 PM »
the tree in front of the boys dorm isn't that big in the final version is it?

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Re: Beta Screenshot Inspection -
« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2015, 09:13:55 PM »
the tree in front of the boys dorm isn't that big in the final version is it?



Eh, in Scholarship Edition it looks about as large.

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Re: Beta Screenshot Inspection -
« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2015, 09:51:54 PM »
^^ That's the Girl's Dorm.

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Re: Beta Screenshot Inspection -
« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2015, 10:03:31 PM »
Oh, here's another beta picture.


It's just another one displaying how in the beta Jimmy could use the dodgeball (as presented in the previous picture), but I also found that there is another beta trashcan in the background. Yes, yes, enough with the beta trashcans--- Well, I'm also intrigued by this image because I haven't seen it before, so it kind of gives me a new perspective of this area in beta bully.

At the bin, you can see there is no wall's from Bullworth to Bullworth town. So like, there is no gates and the player could easily just walk out bullworth academy without those walls.

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Re: Beta Screenshot Inspection -
« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2015, 05:28:24 PM »
the tree in front of the boys dorm isn't that big in the final version is it?



Eh, in Scholarship Edition it looks about as large.
In the beta picture that tree looks like it's leaning to the left a bit.

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Re: Beta Screenshot Inspection -
« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2015, 09:07:03 AM »
The creepy faces were probably lights to begin with. It most likely was to add a more creepy their always watching you feeling.

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Re: Beta Screenshot Inspection -
« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2015, 06:55:38 AM »
Also, another feature I found was that the beta cafeteria had its very own fireplace :) . I don't know if this information is already know, if so sorry for stating the obvious  :cool:


The cafeteria even had 3D roof, in the final game (Both ps2 version and scholarship) the roof is just textured to make it look like 3D, here's the comparison, also if you look closer in the beta picture, you'll notice that almost everything as a nice resolution and isn't blurry, this could prove that it is a very early picture, the game didn't had almost anything so it had a nice graphic, then Rockstar started implementing things and they had to downgrade it. Hardware limitations sucks.





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Re: Beta Screenshot Inspection -
« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2015, 05:58:04 PM »
I'd like to expand more on this picture:


This is perhaps the oldest picture of beta Bully. It's known this was made around of before May 2005. As you can see, Jimmy lacked the Bullworth logo on his vest. Anyways, behind him is the fountain area, and I assume it led to the same locations (Harrington House, Greaser's Shop Area, and the Gym). However, the entrance was much more wide in the final release, and also served as a gathering place for students, shown here:



Also, the pillars shown in the first picture are structurally identical to the final version, but were re-textured from brick to stone. Interesting little fact.

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Re: Beta Screenshot Inspection -
« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2015, 06:14:10 PM »
It looks like the walkway was more narrow and thinner than in the final version.
In the final version, they added some grass to the sides of it in order to give it more roaming space.
It also looks like the fences around the sides were taller and that the stonewall part of it was lower. They probably made it taller in order to cover up the low-res grass texture behind it.