POLL: Thoughts on Gary?

[Peachrocks]

^ I love your essays and I love you.

That's a grand total of... maybe 3?

And yes, I admit that Gary has some good dialogue during chapter 1. But with the teasing towards Pete

That's the thing though, he's not totally bad and unworkable as a character and does have good moments. It's just he's so unconvincing and the fact Jimmy refuses to do the rational thing to deal with him for no other reason than 'the writers didn't want him to'.

Yay for -3 pixel points already... what a surprise.

[Scum]

Wow, Peach, that was... long :D

I'd like to ask you all something - Am I the only one who found Gary hard to beat during Final Showdown?

The first time I played the game the only moves Jimmy had were the Uppercut and the Leg sweep, witch made him kinda weak. When Jimmy punched, Gary always blocked. I could only throw a punch after the uppercut or kick him after the leg sweep. Grappling him was also hard to do, since every second time he would block it. And since every one of his combos consist of a hit that goes through a block and one that knocks Jimmy down, it was very hard for me.

[Peachrocks]

Apologies. I was hoping I'd have more to reply to so it could be constructive. You put your points quite nicely though, I agree his personality was good which I guess makes everything else more disappointing.

As for difficulties, not really, but I did have all the moves. He's not as weak as people make him out though, he's just 'anticlimatic' because he has no special characterisitics or moves (Damon/Bif/Russell's higher health or immunity to grapples). I'm interested to see where exactly on average characters stand physically because there's while the starting hierarchy is pretty clear, after Damon things get messier.

[Scum]

Apologies. I was hoping I'd have more to reply to so it could be constructive. You put your points quite nicely though, I agree his personality was good which I guess makes everything else more disappointing.

I didn't mean to say it wasn't good, infact what you said was absolutely right.

[BloodChuckZ]

Peach's assessment of Gary is Right On.  Enjoyed that.

[Hayley]

Sorry if I'm not making myself 100% clear. I'm terrible when it comes to writing my thoughts down. I also sounded like a dick in my last post and so this is my attempt to NOT seem bitch har har :'I

That's the thing though, he's not totally bad and unworkable as a character and does have good moments. It's just he's so unconvincing and the fact Jimmy refuses to do the rational thing to deal with him for no other reason than 'the writers didn't want him to'.

(This isn't necessarily directed to you Peach, buuut) Perhaps what I said is a bit off. Gary certainly does have the potential to be a good character, but the way R★ presented him to us made him into a bad one, with the reasons being in that essay. Now Peach's restructure of Gary in the plot... I already know about it and I believe that would make more sense.

Opinions, obviously. But the "blind fanboy/girlism," as coined by Peach, makes me dislike Gary even more. No, I'm not trying to get people to hate Gary. I'd just like them to take notice of his flaws in character development, I guess. But alas, even with the blunt facts laid out in front of them, there will always be the stubborn people who flat out disagree with these facts. Thankfully (hopefully, anyway), we don't have people like that on this site.

And now that I think about it, Scum is right. While the players are able to see the bullshit coming out of Gary's mouth, Jimmy can't. He just arrived at the shitty school in the world, no friends at all, and the only person who attempts to hang out with him is Gary. Gary's betrayal was a bit rushed. It also ties in with Jimmy not being very bright, I guess. However, I still think the plot would have been much better if it wasn't so obvious that Gary had Chronic Backstabbing Disorder.

[Red Blaster]

^ I love your essays and I love you.

I think that I know why they go crazy over him:

1. His personality, the fact that he's nuts drives them crazy.
2. How he always teases Pete.
3. His scar.
4. His voice.
5. The fact that he betrays Jimmy and is the main antagonist.

"His scar is so awesome and his voice is to die for!"
This is what I don't like about Gary's fans (or any fans of poorly developed characters, just fyi). They judge on appearances and are too shallow to scratch beneath the surface to discover that Gary is just not a good character.

I'm also pretty sure his fangirls are JB asskissers.