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Title: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Al Arlington on September 28, 2012, 05:39:52 PM
This topic is to discuss and post what you have heard of what was going to be in Beta Bully.

This isn't a modding discussion, but if you have found something in Bully's files, please say it but don't say how to add it into the game, post that in the official modding discussion.

If you find something that is a bit hard to believe, but you have proof, post pics/videos.

RULES
THIS IS NOT A MODDING DISCUSSION.
NO FLAMING OTHER MEMBERS FOR BEING WRONG
NO POSTING OBVIOUS CRAP (E.g omg beta wuz gonna have gunz!!!)



In Beta Bully, the Mailbox Armageddon and the other Henry mission (I forget) was going to take place in Chapter 3, in New Coventry. (Bully Christmas Trailer)
Because of that and the fact you see a LOT of townies in "Balls of Snow" I reckon the original Dropout area was going to be New Coventry.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Scum on September 28, 2012, 05:56:33 PM
I bet Red has a load of stuff that would blow our minds away!

I don't know much. The most interesting thing I know is that Jimmy was meant to find a note telling him to go to the pool in the Gym at the end of Chapter 1, and probably wasn't gonna find out for a long time.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Al Arlington on September 28, 2012, 06:49:56 PM
Soo... Russell in the Hole was originally going to be Russell in the Pool?
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Red Blaster on September 29, 2012, 06:50:17 AM
I think it was supposed to be Hal in the Pool IIRC. I could be wrong, though.

What was in beta Bully:

- A baseball diamond with a mini-game.

- An interior for Come Hither, which was removed. Won't reveal more than that.

- Interiors for other stores too.

- A sewers interior.

- A circuit tower interior in the go-kart track where you can bet on races.

- The boy's dorm originally was a trashy version of the girl's dorm.

- A functioning merry-go-around.

- A much larger map...like, GTA big.

- Gary was supposed to die at the end of Bully.

- There was more to the mission Paparazzi than you think. I won't say what, though.

- There was supposed to be a game room interior inside the beta boy's dorm.

- G & G mini-game.

- This one's obvious, but the static vehicles in Bully (parked Yankee, Regina and Stallion in the Auto Shop, and the forklift) are all "skeletons" of their GTA counterparts. In other words, same exact model, just they had their functionality removed.

- The elevator in the school basement was supposed to take you to the school roof.

There's more, but those come to my mind at the moment.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Mohamed The Kowalski on September 29, 2012, 07:00:39 AM
Someone said that Hal was supposed to be a bully in the first place, I think.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: SWEGTA on September 29, 2012, 08:15:08 AM
Bullies were originally student.

Perfects had batons.

Bucky was originally the kissable nerd.

There were garbage pickup trucks.

Jimmy would unlock a pair of panties that he would wear over his head after the Panty Raid mission.

Jimmy would take a picture of a naked Mandy in paparazzi.

Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Evolution on September 29, 2012, 08:21:07 AM
Winter Lasted Longer.

Gary would be your friend longer, then you find out that he set you up to fight Hal (Or Russell) in the pool later on, IIRC.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Al Arlington on September 29, 2012, 08:37:51 AM
I think it was supposed to be Hal in the Pool IIRC. I could be wrong, though.

What was in beta Bully:

- A baseball diamond with a mini-game.

- An interior for Come Hither, which was removed. Won't reveal more than that.

- Interiors for other stores too.

- A sewers interior.

- A circuit tower interior in the go-kart track where you can bet on races.

- The boy's dorm originally was a trashy version of the girl's dorm.

- A functioning merry-go-around.

- A much larger map...like, GTA big.

- Gary was supposed to die at the end of Bully.

- There was more to the mission Paparazzi than you think. I won't say what, though.

- There was supposed to be a game room interior inside the beta boy's dorm.

- G & G mini-game.

- This one's obvious, but the static vehicles in Bully (parked Yankee, Regina and Stallion in the Auto Shop, and the forklift) are all "skeletons" of their GTA counterparts. In other words, same exact model, just they had their functionality removed.

- The elevator in the school basement was supposed to take you to the school roof.

There's more, but those come to my mind at the moment.
Some of them are obvious.

1.) No idea
2.) Jack Thompson would shit his pants.
3.) PS2 Limits?
4.) Wouldn't make sense. A tower, when there are stands in the track?
5.) No idea, doesn't make sense, as loads of people have said before. :|
6.) Possibly PS2 limits again?
7.) In reality, Jimmy'd get expelled for not turning up for 3/4 of the game. XD
8.) Too much like GTA, where in every GTA game, all the villian(s) die and Jack Thompson would shit himself and have a heart attack.
9.) Probably took away to make Bullworth seem poorer, because how come Bullworth could afford a games room, which'd come to over $1000 but cannot afford a good cook?
10.) Probably PS2 limits again. Or R* couldn't figure out to not make it similar to Pokemon or Yu-Gi-Oh or wny other card game.
11.) Same as 2 & 8
12.) Probably because JT would complain about Jimmy being on there being supervised.

If it wasn't for JT, Bully would of been 2x better. >:(



After finding that Beta Johnny picture, I think Sid may have been a early Jimmy, and (most) missions were going to take place in school.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Red Blaster on September 29, 2012, 08:56:53 AM
Jimmy would take a picture of a naked Mandy in paparazzi.

Thanks helping me out with some of the others that I forgot to include, but about this one:

Mandy's towel model used to be a naked one. The towel and panties she's wearing are last minute jobs.

4.) Wouldn't make sense. A tower, when there are stands in the track?
5.) No idea, doesn't make sense, as loads of people have said before. :|


4) IIRC, there's a circuit tower in the go-kart track, but it's just a model. You were supposed to be able to enter it and bet on races from there.

Also, FYI, almost all racing circuits have towers.

5) Which one do you mean?
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Al Arlington on September 29, 2012, 09:30:23 AM
Slightly off topic, but you use a Mr Burton skin and do Paparazzi.
As soon as Mr Burton enters he meets Chris Hansen. XD
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Erik on September 29, 2012, 10:51:13 AM
omg beta wuz gonna have gunz!!!

Seriously guys, thanks for this.  Very interesting.   :D
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Hayley on September 29, 2012, 10:52:58 AM
- Gary was supposed to die at the end of Bully.
I would have loved that ending.

WHAT who said that?!
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Evolution on September 29, 2012, 10:57:47 AM
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeellliooootttt made a video about it on Youtube.

Excuse all the e's and o's and t's, but he likes to extend the e's quite a lot in his name  :ajajaxh5:
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Erik on September 29, 2012, 10:59:17 AM
- Gary was supposed to die at the end of Bully.
I would have loved that ending.

^ This.   :ajajaxh5:
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Jimmette on September 29, 2012, 11:03:52 AM
Why does everyone want the ending of Gary dying.
I mean sure he's a mental, douchebag, who should have taken his pills ages ago.
But he's a lovable psycho who's loved by all Bully fan-girls in the Fanfiction world so, shh.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Evolution on September 29, 2012, 11:06:05 AM
C'mon... Who'd want good ol' Gary to die?.. He's a good person, people!
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Erik on September 29, 2012, 11:13:20 AM
But he's a lovable psycho who's loved by all Bully fan-girls in the Fanfiction world so, shh.

^ There's one good reason.   :P
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Hayley on September 29, 2012, 11:14:20 AM
I ain't even gonna drag that on. :euro:

... I've always wondered about that elevator. It seemed really out of place, especially when when there's no place at the school it could have led to.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Jimmette on September 29, 2012, 11:19:41 AM
... I've always wondered about that elevator. It seemed really out of place, especially when when there's no place at the school it could have led to.
I just thought the elevator was for the mission Help Gary, I thought that's how the students who came too watch the fight got down into the Basement.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Scum on September 29, 2012, 11:21:39 AM
What Red said did blow me away..

It was gonna be a more serious game, I guess? And after all, I always thought that the game's ending was a bit.. cliche? I mean, you beat the bad guy, you fall trough a skylight and don't even get a cut, bad guy get's expelled, headmaster makes a boy he never heard of headboy and takes back an expelled student because a teenaged psycho vandal said so. Everyone is like 'W00t jimi u rok' and your new girlfriend, already in her uniform, despite being taken back in school a minute ago, gives you a kiss.

Imagine Gary dying. Probably when they fall through the skylight. Imagine Jimmy's reaction. And Crabblesnitch's. In my opinion, that would have been better. If only the game wasn't T rated, there would've been so much more in it, right?

But I guess that then releasing the game would've been even harder.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Hayley on September 29, 2012, 11:24:27 AM
@ Jimmette
Probably came in through that one door near the school store.
I just meant that the floors of the school don't have a door for the elevator.

@ Scum
A+ read.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Jimmette on September 29, 2012, 11:30:35 AM
@ Jimmette
Probably came in through that one door near the school store.
I just meant that the floors of the school don't have a door for the elevator.
Ah I see, I was just thinking that's how they got into the Basement since they Spawn near the elevator, oh well. I was probably over thinking it.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: c00ld0c26 on September 29, 2012, 11:33:55 AM
Why does everyone want the ending of Gary dying.
I mean sure he's a mental, douchebag, who should have taken his pills ages ago.
But he's a lovable psycho who's loved by all Bully fan-girls in the Fanfiction world so, shh.

How can he be loveable? the guy is sick , even with hes pills Nerds (even algie) and students around the school says he dosnt want any friends only to bully pepole and ect.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Evolution on September 29, 2012, 11:38:20 AM
Gary is a genius.  8)
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: c00ld0c26 on September 29, 2012, 11:39:49 AM
A genius with problems bigger then GTA IV map
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Hayley on September 29, 2012, 11:40:01 AM
... what have I started.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Jimmette on September 29, 2012, 11:43:50 AM
... what have I started.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-UqjhH0raKuk/T-BSMq-d2OI/AAAAAAAAC_8/5m_rK9FOftU/s1600/your-fault.jpg)
Gary pwnz jimmehs bawl saks.
:laugh: What?
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Scum on September 29, 2012, 11:49:50 AM
Um.

I'll come back to this thread later.

@Hayley: Thanks :')
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Jimmette on September 29, 2012, 01:40:08 PM
Yeah I agree Scum :happy:
--
I don't know much stuff about the Beta Bully all I know was.
The Boys dorm originally had 2 floors as Red pointed out.
And Lola's race or even the Greaser's chapter didn't happen in Winter but it's a bit obvious. 
 
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Red Blaster on September 29, 2012, 06:30:55 PM
What the fuck happened here?  :o

Okay, guys, let's get back on track now. Any further off-topics posts will be deleted (because such is the way of the doctor  >:D ).

@Hayley: The death is according to a contact of MadmaN's at R*.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Jimmette on September 29, 2012, 06:42:09 PM
^
Yes we shall get back on topic.
Too be honest I probably can see why R* wanted Gary's death too happen, since I don't know who said this but R* or someone was predicting that sales wasn't gonna go very well for Bully so R* wouldn't be making a Sequel, but I don't know why they changed it maybe too keep it T rated I don't know, sorry if this info is wrong this is what I heard and I just thought of some stuff along the way.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Scum on September 29, 2012, 06:48:46 PM
What the fuck happened here?  :o

Okay, guys, let's get back on track now. Any further off-topics posts will be deleted (because such is the way of the doctor  >:D ).

@Hayley: The death is according to a contact of MadmaN's at R*.

thank you!

Uum. Is it true that Jimmy was supposed to fight Crabblesnitch some time during the storyline?
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Hayley on September 29, 2012, 06:59:43 PM
(Ugh, thank you, Doctor Red.)
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Jimmette on September 29, 2012, 07:00:17 PM
I was just looking at Bully's Wiki page.
Apparently the only reason a bed is in the Basement is because Mr. Luntz was originally was meant to Spawn there.
The boys dorm was originally going to lock the doors at mid-night and you would have to then sneak through the window.
Sheldon and Pedro spawned in the boys dorm in the beta.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Red Blaster on September 29, 2012, 07:04:55 PM
What the fuck happened here?  :o

Okay, guys, let's get back on track now. Any further off-topics posts will be deleted (because such is the way of the doctor  >:D ).

@Hayley: The death is according to a contact of MadmaN's at R*.

thank you!

Uum. Is it true that Jimmy was supposed to fight Crabblesnitch some time during the storyline?

Not that I know of...I know he was supposed to be a villain, but whether you confront him directly or not...not sure.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Red Blaster on September 29, 2012, 07:07:07 PM
I was just looking at Bully's Wiki page.
Apparently the only reason a bed is in the Basement is because Mr. Luntz was originally was meant to Spawn there.

I was the one who added that piece of info. Thanks for reminding me. Yes, at night, Mr. Luntz would leave the shop and go down to the basement, where he spawns at night.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Jimmette on September 29, 2012, 07:12:31 PM
No problem Red.
I was quite surprised to hear about this beta info.
I'll try and find more beta info out.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Hayley on September 29, 2012, 07:13:58 PM
If Crabblesnitch was the main villain, then sure, I could see a fight happening. But maybe that idea was changed before Rockstar actually started working on/coding/whatever the game.

Jimmy fighting principal!Crabblesnitch... shrug.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Scum on September 29, 2012, 07:14:55 PM
@Red: That would be damn creepy.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Red Blaster on September 29, 2012, 07:21:09 PM
@Hayley: I'll have to ask MadmaN.

On another note, I mentioned these first two before in other threads, but might as well repeat 'em:

- Dogs were meant to be killed.

- Gary's SS uniform originally had a swastika on it.

- Here's To You Ms. Phillips originally had you race against Peanut to get the stuff.

- You were supposed to fight or play a mini-game against Dan and Kirby in Carnival Date.

- There seems to be a scrapped mission where you were supposed to get Damon in trouble by planting Dr. Crabblesnitch's paddle in his bag and take a picture of him with it.

- The Setup's original cutscene is in the school, not outside of it. Also, you were supposed to go through the entire Bully clique, including free roam Russell.

@Red: That would be damn creepy.

Right? Lord knows what he'll do to kids down there if catches them.

In fact, I'm gonna make a mod where he spawns down there in the basement and patrols the area with a sledgehammer, lol.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Jimmette on September 29, 2012, 07:30:42 PM
Ooh more great Bully beta info, I'm bored so I'm gonna comment on each one.
- I can see why R* took that out of the final version, that would just cause more controversy with the game if they kept that in.
- I don't have a opinion on this.
- That would actually be pretty fun to do.
- I remember something to do with Dan and Kirby on Carnival date.
- Why has Crabblesnitch got a paddle anyway?
- Maybe they scrapped since R* wanted you too fight Russel at the end of the chapter.
--
This may not be useful Beta info but it's all I got apparently the dodge-ball was a weapon you could use in freeroam.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Red Blaster on September 29, 2012, 07:47:59 PM
Yup, and so was the BB Gun.

Oh yeah, I just remembered yet another few things:

1. You were supposed to drop some kind of candy on the floor (joke candy?) in Halloween, and then Edna would eat it and become sick.

2. Also in Halloween, you were supposed to have Pete distract Mr. Burton and Dr. Slawter while you throw itching powder at them.

3. Pete is supposed get kicked in the balls in some part in Halloween. Not sure when though, but basically he's chosen as the target since Jimmy and Gary hide somewhere.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Erik on September 29, 2012, 07:58:02 PM
Yay for Red!  I almost gave up on this thread.   :ajajaxh5:
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Red Blaster on September 29, 2012, 08:06:21 PM
Tell me about it. I can't believe I didn't check up sooner.

Further infractions WILL result in a ban, too.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Scum on September 29, 2012, 08:09:28 PM
This is the most awesome thread made in a while.

I also remember someone copy pasting what he said to be 'the entire Bully script' or something, I'm really not sure. I'm almost sure it was here on B-B, and it was a HUGE post. There was allot of Halloween stuff at the beginning(i actually read some it) and I remember seeing Pete's lines from The Big Prank's intro a bit altered. I think he even says 'shit'. There were also a few prank errands that aren't among the ones you do. I really have no other memories of this.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Al Arlington on September 29, 2012, 08:12:53 PM
Wasn't that Madman?
I remember he was decompiling, not sure if that was the same as copy-pasting.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Scum on September 29, 2012, 08:17:14 PM
I really don't remember..

But if you find it, can you please post the link to the topic? I really wanna take another look at it.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Red Blaster on September 29, 2012, 08:21:31 PM
This is the most awesome thread made in a while.

I also remember someone copy pasting what he said to be 'the entire Bully script' or something, I'm really not sure. I'm almost sure it was here on B-B, and it was a HUGE post. There was allot of Halloween stuff at the beginning(i actually read some it) and I remember seeing Pete's lines from The Big Prank's intro a bit altered. I think he even says 'shit'. There were also a few prank errands that aren't among the ones you do. I really have no other memories of this.

He says: "Wh-what the hell?! I've been kicked in the balls, reported to the principal, and now you guys are messing around with dogshit? I'm out of here."

Here's another: In the mission "The Slingshot", the victims were four Bullies, not Jocks.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Hayley on September 29, 2012, 08:26:00 PM
That would make a bit more sense since chapter one involves, you know, the bullies. :V
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Red Blaster on September 29, 2012, 08:42:30 PM
Just went ahead and deleted the entire spam in this topic.

Again: Another breach of this law and bans WILL be issued. You want to go off in a tangent/off-topic, take it to the general discussion.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Red Blaster on September 29, 2012, 08:50:06 PM
Here's another one:

You know Edna's quote in Hattrick vs. Galloway "YOU! What are you doing?! That's disgusting!" when you pick up the bottle in the cafeteria?

That was actually supposed to be used in "The Big Game". Basically, she would be patrolling around the sports drink cooler, and if she catches you spiking it, she'll say that quote.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Erik on September 29, 2012, 08:59:05 PM
^ That's awesome.  It makes a lot more sense, too.   ;D
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Jimmette on September 30, 2012, 03:02:16 AM
You know Edna's quote in Hattrick vs. Galloway "YOU! What are you doing?! That's disgusting!" when you pick up the bottle in the cafeteria?

That was actually supposed to be used in "The Big Game". Basically, she would be patrolling around the sports drink cooler, and if she catches you spiking it, she'll say that quote.
Well that explains it. :) I thought it was kinda weird when she said that in Galloway vs Hattrick when all your getting is a bottle.
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I found another one, remember when Red said the script been changed, well in Welcome to Bullworth.
Jimmy was originally meant to say too Gary. "Gimme a break dickhead." But it got changed to loser in the final version.
Also in Welcome to Bullworth Edward the Prefect stopped the fight with Jimmy and Russell but got changed to Harrtick.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Scum on September 30, 2012, 04:33:24 AM
Here's another: In the mission "The Slingshot", the victims were four Bullies, not Jocks.

I can see why it was changed. I don't know why the Jocks WON'T be at the field, and the Bullies will. But, it's pretty much the same thing with the Greasers during The Setup, Defend Bucky and Character Sheets. 

Or maybe you weren't meant to go to the field at all?
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Al Arlington on September 30, 2012, 04:52:19 AM
I mean, you beat the bad guy, you fall trough a skylight and don't even get a cut,

Actually, I think that was because of the engine Bully was on, Renderware.

At the end of GTA SA where Tenpenny is involved in a serious car crash, he gets out without a mark on him. Same with Gary.

If Bully was on the RAGE engine then Bully probably would have seperate models for them times only.


Bully had so much removed it's unreal. You even know if something was removed by playing the story.

Um, he's at the pizza parlor OK?

What it should of been:
C: Um, he's at the pizza parlor OK?
JV: We know your lying. There isn't a pizza parlor near here. Boys, finish him off, lets find someone who'll squeal.


I know Pinky had an appearance removed, it was a dark blue vest with school slacks and her normal shoes.

Paparazzi involved taking a picture of Mandy on the toilet, removed for pretty obvious reasons.

SWEGTA found some audio files of Asylum Patients.

Gregory was supposed to be an Orderly, you can still see him in Finding Johnny Vincent, Galloway Away and he approaches you for an errand.

(Possibly) Everything in the Scholarship Edition was supposed to be in the PS2 version, but probably removed cos of PS2 limits.

Crabblesnitch was supposed be a corrupt Head. (http://uk.ign.com/articles/2006/08/16/meet-crabblesnitch-bully-nemesis (http://uk.ign.com/articles/2006/08/16/meet-crabblesnitch-bully-nemesis)) That pic may mean he was going to be in free roam or it's a promo, as many games make pics of stuff that don't happen without mods.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: c00ld0c26 on September 30, 2012, 06:43:41 AM
Damn it you guys know so much about beta bully there are a few things that I a bit remember that I know about beta bully some of them already said in the topic but the others I dont remember so much Il be posting it if ill remember , Btw tnx for the info.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: SWEGTA on September 30, 2012, 06:58:17 AM
- There were originally way more patients as many have similar dialouge to Otto's "But don't anger the watcher"-line.

- There was actually a pizza parlor and a sawmill. I found a few soundfiles for that as well.

- The detention music was different (I'll post it right now)
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: c00ld0c26 on September 30, 2012, 07:19:23 AM
- There were originally way more patients as many have similar dialouge to Otto's "But don't anger the watcher"-line.

- There was actually a pizza parlor and a sawmill. I found a few soundfiles for that as well.

- The detention music was different (I'll post it right now)

Hes right , in the second one if you got to new coventry and you see 2 workers talking you can hear them talking about the sawmill
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Red Blaster on September 30, 2012, 09:03:55 AM
- There were originally way more patients as many have similar dialouge to Otto's "But don't anger the watcher"-line.

- There was actually a pizza parlor and a sawmill. I found a few soundfiles for that as well.

- The detention music was different (I'll post it right now)

The sawmill is still in the game. It's listed in Trigger. If I'm not mistaken, it's that large building to your left when you're facing the chem plant directly.

Also, that reminds me of Mr. Ramirez: He was originally supposed to be crazy.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: SWEGTA on September 30, 2012, 11:35:29 AM
- There were originally way more patients as many have similar dialouge to Otto's "But don't anger the watcher"-line.

- There was actually a pizza parlor and a sawmill. I found a few soundfiles for that as well.

- The detention music was different (I'll post it right now)

The sawmill is still in the game. It's listed in Trigger. If I'm not mistaken, it's that large building to your left when you're facing the chem plant directly.

Also, that reminds me of Mr. Ramirez: He was originally supposed to be crazy.


Yeah but they turned him into a therapist... Yikes..
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Red Blaster on September 30, 2012, 11:39:08 AM
You're thinking of Dr. Bambillo, who is a different person, lol.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: SWEGTA on September 30, 2012, 11:40:28 AM
You're thinking of Dr. Bambillo, who is a different person, lol.

Who was the other guy?
How does he look?
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Red Blaster on September 30, 2012, 11:43:56 AM
I'll get some screenshots right now.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Red Blaster on September 30, 2012, 01:51:41 PM
First one is Dr. Bambillo, second is Mr. Ramirez.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: SWEGTA on September 30, 2012, 01:53:43 PM
Is the other one the mailman?
Also isn't his firstname Stan or something?
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Red Blaster on September 30, 2012, 01:56:25 PM
The mailman is the guy on the left (Mr. Svenson). I'm referring to the guy on the right. That's Mr. Ramirez.

And no, Stan is the proprietor of Yum Yum Market in New Coventry.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: SWEGTA on September 30, 2012, 02:00:05 PM
Oooooh.
I always thought that the Yum Yum market only had one staff haha xD
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: deadpoolXYZ on October 05, 2012, 03:32:41 PM
Hayley posted those pics in the "2000 things you have learned from bully" so I don't want to take credit or anything.  :P

Green lawnmower:

http://oi50.tinypic.com/ilaeth.jpg (http://oi50.tinypic.com/ilaeth.jpg)

Angie without glasses:

http://oi45.tinypic.com/6omlfq.jpg (http://oi45.tinypic.com/6omlfq.jpg)

Jerry with longer hair:

http://oi46.tinypic.com/vessat.jpg (http://oi46.tinypic.com/vessat.jpg)

Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Hayley on October 05, 2012, 03:55:35 PM
Oh yeah... :V

Also I just stole those from these (http://www.bully-board.com/index.php?topic=951.0) threads (http://www.bully-board.com/index.php?topic=860.0) methinks so ha ha I don't think I can take actually credit or anything like that for them.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Grilled cheese on October 05, 2012, 09:02:13 PM
Angie could have just gotten hit by jimmy, her glasses flew off, and she's like "wtf jimmy"
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Hayley on October 06, 2012, 01:13:47 AM
True, but there's more pictures of her without them (I don't feel like looking for them right now) and it just seems to me she didn't lose them in a fight or anything like that, but rather she just... never wore them.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Red Blaster on October 06, 2012, 02:41:12 AM
The green lawnmower is the exact same lawnmower from GTA: San Andreas.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: SWEGTA on October 06, 2012, 06:13:15 AM
OOOH SAUCE

We need more of these pics..
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Evolution on October 06, 2012, 07:03:20 AM
^ Yeah, they seem quite interesting, and it shows a lot about the stuff that was removed from Bully.

Ahhh, silly Rockstar... The BETA would of been 20x better... :'(
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Al Arlington on October 06, 2012, 07:39:06 AM
The green lawnmower is the exact same lawnmower from GTA: San Andreas.
Model, yes, texture, no. ;)

Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Scum on October 06, 2012, 11:03:57 AM
That's for sure. :D
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: deadpoolXYZ on October 06, 2012, 11:13:53 AM
Derby had a red Tie? In the original cutscene he doesn't have it.

(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c15/Iceman1988/Bul12.jpg)

Preppies beta uniform:

(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c15/Iceman1988/B4.jpg)
(http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/6339/bully118um.jpg)
(http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/6095/bully719kx.jpg)
(http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/1884/92812820050607screen0033zx.jpg)


Bob walking next to Bo, Sheldon with a red uniform and the floor is diferent:

(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c15/Iceman1988/B1.jpg)

I don't remember this attack:

(http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/8594/bully417pe.jpg)

Davis has another uniform:

(http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/1003/92812820050607screen0022nv.jpg)

Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Red Blaster on October 06, 2012, 01:48:34 PM
Can you do me a favor and post the 3rd, 4th, 5th, 7th, and 8th pics as attachments?
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Evolution on October 06, 2012, 01:52:03 PM
@Deadpool, I believe that attack is what the normal peds do.. It often happens a lot, like when you run away from them, and they catch up to you they do the downwards running punch attack, jimmy does not do it in the original game, though.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Hayley on October 06, 2012, 02:53:44 PM
Can you do me a favor and post the 3rd, 4th, 5th, 7th, and 8th pics as attachments?
http://i45.tinypic.com/vuuko.jpg (http://i45.tinypic.com/vuuko.jpg)
http://i50.tinypic.com/161j3er.jpg (http://i50.tinypic.com/161j3er.jpg)
http://i48.tinypic.com/ib97xj.jpg (http://i48.tinypic.com/ib97xj.jpg)
http://i47.tinypic.com/11jvvox.jpg (http://i47.tinypic.com/11jvvox.jpg)
http://i50.tinypic.com/a5do5e.jpg (http://i50.tinypic.com/a5do5e.jpg)
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Jimmette on October 06, 2012, 03:01:17 PM
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c15/Iceman1988/B1.jpg)
Is it me or does Luis look more chubbier in the Beta. :hmm:
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: SWEGTA on October 06, 2012, 04:21:20 PM
Did the beta dorm have a bathroom?
COOL!!!
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Scum on October 06, 2012, 04:42:07 PM
Jimmy looked uglier. But meaner too. And a bit more slim.

In the Luis pic there seems to be some ped in a weird position, on the right of the kid with the redish vest(I'm guessing Sheldon).
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Erik on October 06, 2012, 05:18:34 PM
Yay!  Hay-Hay to the rescue!   :D
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Red Blaster on October 06, 2012, 06:34:01 PM
Can you do me a favor and post the 3rd, 4th, 5th, 7th, and 8th pics as attachments?
http://i45.tinypic.com/vuuko.jpg (http://i45.tinypic.com/vuuko.jpg)
http://i50.tinypic.com/161j3er.jpg (http://i50.tinypic.com/161j3er.jpg)
http://i48.tinypic.com/ib97xj.jpg (http://i48.tinypic.com/ib97xj.jpg)
http://i47.tinypic.com/11jvvox.jpg (http://i47.tinypic.com/11jvvox.jpg)
http://i50.tinypic.com/a5do5e.jpg (http://i50.tinypic.com/a5do5e.jpg)

What would I do without you, Hayley?

Thanks. :D
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Red Blaster on October 07, 2012, 12:21:49 PM
Okay guys, 2 things.

1. You know the garbage truck SWEGTA was talking about? He assumed that based on seeing "collectgarbage()" in lua scripts, which is actually just a command for managing memory.

2. The pizza parlor Cornelius was talking about indeed no longer exists, HOWEVER, its location was supposed to be where the New Coventry police station is now.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Jimmette on October 07, 2012, 03:20:04 PM
^
Interesting info, so is that how the greasers know that Jimmy, Algie and Chad was in New Coventry since it's close by? Maybe.. :hmm:
--
Anyway I was looking at the original trailer for Bully and analyzing it, here is what I noticed:
1). The school looked like it had 3 floors & the first floor of the school was smaller.
2). The setup cut-scene was in the school building, maybe the set-up was meant to be based in the school and not outside.
That's all I noticed but I felt like these needed to be pointed out.
EDIT: I looked at trailer number 2 and I found more:
3). The Diary could be played in the morning or afternoon.
4). In the 'Panty raid' mission it looked like Beatrice was going to be the one that caught you.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Elyson on October 08, 2012, 11:49:09 AM
Please, dont stop this topic! Post more and more things!
I always write I love every discovery about Bully beta, we need another one Rockstar! :D
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Elyson on October 08, 2012, 12:23:27 PM
Did someone mention about these in this topic? I don't remember.

- A new dog breed was found in the game files
- A extended version of the game introduction
- A new mission with Lola
- Halloween (?) fork.
- Another Edgar and Johnny's Cutscenes before respective fights.
- The skate had different texture.
_
(I dont know if these bellow were really in the beta stuff)

- The subejcts "History" and "Home Economics" were supposed to be in game
- Christy was supposed to be called "Alexis" and Tad Spencer: "Tad Smith"

Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Red Blaster on October 08, 2012, 02:48:09 PM
1. The doberman, yes. He belonged to the Punks.

2 and 5: Yeah, beta cutscenes.

3. It's a scrapped beta mission that's missing a ton of dialogue and code. I could probably rewrite it when I have the time.

4. Yeah, there's also joke candy that was supposed to be used on Edna in Halloween.

6. Never seen that pic before.

About Christy: Where did you get the Alexis part from? It sounds familiar, but I can't remember.

Oh yeah, here's another: Norton's original name was Jason, although I mentioned this before.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Scum on October 08, 2012, 05:01:45 PM
I never knew about a different Johnny cutscene!
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Red Blaster on October 08, 2012, 05:28:15 PM
^ The Gman has the beta cutscenes uploaded on his channel.

The children ambiance that you hear in one part of New Coventry is referred to as "Playground" and "KidsPlaying" in the ambiance files. If I had to guess, that part was originally supposed to have a child park.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Elyson on October 10, 2012, 07:50:56 PM
About Christy: Where did you get the Alexis part from? It sounds familiar, but I can't remember.

I saw a video about some beta stuff.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Al Arlington on October 10, 2012, 08:01:09 PM
Possibly Chapters 3 & 4 were going to be in Winter.
Jimmy's beta uniform was Bullworth Vest, Jeans & Work boots. (Can be seen in early pics & by finding "Player" in world.img)
(An SE mistake) But, outside the Music room it says Home Ec, so pherhaps Jimmy could take cooking?
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Red Blaster on October 11, 2012, 01:13:26 AM
About Christy: Where did you get the Alexis part from? It sounds familiar, but I can't remember.

I saw a video about some beta stuff.

Well Mad confirmed it from his contact at R*, so yeah. Interesting...
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Scum on October 11, 2012, 05:06:59 AM
Does anyone know more about the beta Russel in The Hole(well it was gonna be Russel in The Pool but yeah)? Was Jimmy meant to know who set him up after the fight or something?
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Mohamed The Kowalski on October 11, 2012, 01:17:31 PM
I think it was meant to be Hal in the pool, and I heard somewhere that Hal was supposed to be a bully.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: deadpoolXYZ on October 11, 2012, 03:10:51 PM
I think it was meant to be Hal in the pool, and I heard somewhere that Hal was supposed to be a bully.

This is on the bully wiki:

Quote
In Bully, Hal occasionally says "After Russell's done hitting you, I'm gonna sit on you." He also says "After I'm done hitting you I'm gonna sit on you." It's possible that Hal was originally intended to be one of the Bullies, in fact, he doesn't talk about bikes and racing like the other Greasers. The line about Russell was removed from Scholarship Edition, and possibly from later produced copies of Bully as well.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: SWEGTA on October 11, 2012, 04:05:17 PM
Wooow that's really weird!
But hell!
Bob was a bully as well.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Red Blaster on October 11, 2012, 04:57:48 PM
^ Nope, he's a jock. If you're basing that on his wrestling model's faction, then Bo is a bully too.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: deadpoolXYZ on October 11, 2012, 05:29:31 PM
^ Nope, he's a jock. If you're basing that on his wrestling model's faction, then Bo is a bully too.

Is wrestling Bo in the ide.img? I didn't find him.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Red Blaster on October 12, 2012, 12:20:11 AM
I'm positive I've seen his model in the ide before. But I can't remember which file.

But that aside, in one of the audio files, he refers to himself as a jock ("I'm not even a stupid jock...and I don't get it.")
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Al Arlington on October 28, 2012, 05:52:00 PM
Beta Bully:
I did post a beta Johnny pic.
http://www.tylersart.com/professional.html (http://www.tylersart.com/professional.html) (403 forbidden if I get the image)
http://www.tylersart.com/bully.html (http://www.tylersart.com/bully.html)
Beta Bully characters.

Zoe...... what the?
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: 41hc1OLD on October 30, 2012, 03:08:33 PM
Can any of this content be restored?
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Red Blaster on October 30, 2012, 03:48:41 PM
Almost all of it can.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Red Blaster on October 30, 2012, 04:05:42 PM
On another note, here's another one:

You were originally supposed to be able to take a shit in this game.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Al Arlington on October 30, 2012, 04:45:01 PM
........
Ew.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: 41hc1OLD on October 30, 2012, 05:01:22 PM
Where are you finding this stuff? I know some of it is from pre-release screenshots and trailers, and from the audio files. Which file(s) are you finding this unused stuff from?
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Red Blaster on October 30, 2012, 05:09:27 PM
Some things I'm getting from the data files (scripts and all that), and some I get from MadmaN who in turn gets this info from his contacts at R*.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Jimmette on October 30, 2012, 05:15:26 PM
On another note, here's another one:

You were originally supposed to be able to take a shit in this game.
Of R* and there toilets.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Red Blaster on October 30, 2012, 07:49:09 PM
Not sure if this was mentioned, but you were originally supposed to dissect an alien in Biology class.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Red Blaster on October 30, 2012, 07:53:02 PM
There's also a darts mini-game.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: UltimateGamer1 on October 30, 2012, 07:55:45 PM
This game had allot of weird stuff in it lol. The beta dorm still exsist's and there is a cloak over both the school and the dorm where if you walk far away from the dorm thebeta dorm appears and the same thing goes for the school. Me and Red found this out in our adventure of bullworth. The setup mission started inside and continued outside.Darby has a beta uppercut that does more damage then the normal one. Ted had a jock mix boss style. Th reason for scraping Ted's 1 on 1 boss fight is unknown would've been awesome.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Al Arlington on October 30, 2012, 08:45:04 PM
Not sure if this was mentioned, but you were originally supposed to dissect an alien in Biology class.
You can on Wii & Xbox, on 2 player mode though.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Scum on October 31, 2012, 05:10:11 AM
True that.
Bully SE Aliens in Bully (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDNap0wUMBE#)
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: 41hc1OLD on November 01, 2012, 04:27:47 PM
Is this cutscene still in the files or did Rockstar completely remove it? [Bully] "Spank me~" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COOYnlgR_EA#)
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Red Blaster on November 01, 2012, 04:40:38 PM
I don't know about the PS2 version, but on the PC version, it seems to be completely removed.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: c00ld0c26 on November 01, 2012, 04:41:22 PM
In wiki it said that this cutscene was removed , audio , video , everything.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: 41hc1OLD on November 01, 2012, 04:43:19 PM
That's strange how they left a lot of unused content, but completely remove that cutscene.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: c00ld0c26 on November 01, 2012, 04:44:31 PM
They totaly removed it cuz if they warnt they wouldnt get the T rating due to the sexulity content of the cutscene.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Red Blaster on November 01, 2012, 04:46:08 PM
Well, a bunch of the content I mentioned in general has been completely removed as well (specifically, the info MadmaN got from his R* contact).
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: 41hc1OLD on November 01, 2012, 05:12:10 PM
MadmaN got from his R* contact.
By that do you mean he knows someone that works there? Or that he contacted R* and they told him the info.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Red Blaster on November 01, 2012, 05:33:39 PM
He knows quite a few people who work there.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Al Arlington on November 10, 2012, 11:29:34 AM
(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120528201122/caniscanem/es/images/6/64/Nueva_imagen_(7).jpg)
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Jimmette on November 10, 2012, 11:32:27 AM
^
I think that's Pinky in the old preppies uniform.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: SWEGTA on November 10, 2012, 05:02:39 PM
Dude fuck Algie.
He's an annoying prick who constantly pisses himself and disrespects Jimmy constantly even though he has saved his fatass multiple times.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: xXxNarumi on November 11, 2012, 03:56:02 AM
As I remember before someone leaked ROCKSTAR BETA GAMES I checked a little on BULLY BETA
(At the time I never played BULLY so i didnt read much I was looking forward into GTA 3 BETA)
ok so the Doberman was in the beta faction with the punks.
Most stores was able to go to (There is 1 left over store that is disabled FIREWORKS STORE works in final version if Enabled.)
Russell Was Punk Leader
More cars, bigger dorm, more weapons.
And thats all I know.
I haven't looked more into BULLY before the Site got removed
It was a limited time offer for 1,000 people to look into cause it was a ROCKSTAR BETA LEAKER
and he didn't want to risk a Law suit.

PS. Since I didn't look at the GTA 3 BETA Gameplay video I want to kill my self (not really but very butt hurted and mine fucked) every time I think of GTA 3.
He had showed the BETA missions, cars, weapons, Ai's, etc.
FML... If only I had a time machine or magic.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: xXxNarumi on November 11, 2012, 04:01:14 AM
^
I think that's Pinky in the old preppies uniform.

And No thats the Final Version of her clothes.
Its just R* painted it dark same with Mandy, Trent, etc
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: SWEGTA on November 11, 2012, 06:06:07 AM
But who cares now?
Done is done.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: SWEGTA on November 11, 2012, 06:41:11 AM
Yeah, but it would have probably been full of errors, glitches and such.
ALPHA -> BETA -> OFFICIA RELEASE
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: SWEGTA on November 11, 2012, 06:46:32 AM
Melvin would constantly have a visible buttcrack (uuuurgh.. one dude in my school actually has this).
But Dan the medic would be a bit cool..
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: SWEGTA on November 11, 2012, 07:16:54 AM
Yeah..
I mean how cool would it be too if the school had actual events?

Like PTA meetings (Parents teacher association), Band performance, Football Games, tests, Anti-bullying speeches etc.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: xXxNarumi on November 11, 2012, 11:05:28 AM
Thats probably not the Zoe beta.
Fist of all well.. i have no idea but that one website the guy just said he rigged those models.
but i could be wrong I havent checked that one website of R* BETAS before it got removed.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Red Blaster on November 11, 2012, 11:29:39 AM
Yeah..
I mean how cool would it be too if the school had actual events?

Like PTA meetings (Parents teacher association), Band performance, Football Games, tests, Anti-bullying speeches etc.

I want to make a mod one day for Bully that makes Bullworth more lively.

Like, have Luis and Bob wrestling in the gym on the mattress, fill the pool with water and have a swimmer maybe, add all sorts of practice in the football field and court, have students in classrooms, etc.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: xXxNarumi on November 11, 2012, 12:00:10 PM
Even if you added water you can't script they walking AI to the water and stuff lol.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Red Blaster on November 11, 2012, 12:01:56 PM
AI's can swim. So all I have to is set them to move in the pool area, and they should automatically swim.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: xXxNarumi on November 11, 2012, 12:06:48 PM
Yea they know how to swim but saying moving them to the water may not be possible.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: SWEGTA on November 11, 2012, 12:07:19 PM
I heard something about a Map Editor from Bully (though this was not an active project anymore).

But that would be pretty freaking awesome.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Red Blaster on November 11, 2012, 12:21:33 PM
That's Mad's project...but right now what's hindering him is the encrypted .ipl files (.ipb) and tons of missing .gsa files.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Walter20210 on November 22, 2012, 11:24:16 PM
I want more things :D
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Red Blaster on November 23, 2012, 01:13:58 PM
Well, if Mad would come back, I can get more.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Walter20210 on November 23, 2012, 01:46:10 PM
Ok
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Binky on November 23, 2012, 06:38:30 PM
BUMP
I've read the whole thread
And I love it
I don't want it to die D':
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Red Blaster on November 24, 2012, 08:30:14 AM
It'll resurface again once more beta info from my source (MadmaN) comes my way.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Red Blaster on November 24, 2012, 02:51:09 PM
If there was, that Marion girl would definitely be there.

Hmm...I wonder if Marion was a scrapped character who was supposed to be a jock girl and on the cheerleading squad as well (and in turn, close friends with Mandy).
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: 41hc1OLD on November 24, 2012, 02:55:28 PM
Going back to the Paparazzi mission, Mandy's nude model can briefly be seen in the Valentine's day trailer at 00:16.
Bully: Valentine's Special Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E10dUIpDuoQ#)
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: xXxNarumi on November 24, 2012, 03:58:41 PM
If there was, that Marion girl would definitely be there.

Hmm...I wonder if Marion was a scrapped character who was supposed to be a jock girl and on the cheerleading squad as well (and in turn, close friends with Mandy).

Who is Marion?
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Jimmette on November 24, 2012, 04:07:30 PM
^
'Oh Marion, show me your breast stroke again!'
Ring a bell now? ;)
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: c00ld0c26 on November 24, 2012, 04:22:39 PM
LOL first time Ive heard this I lauged so fucking hard I nearly died!
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Hayley on November 24, 2012, 04:46:47 PM
*Marian.

Hello.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Jimmette on November 24, 2012, 05:00:25 PM
^
Nope.
Bully: Scholarship Edition # 7-Defend Bucky (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quO_0HQciWE#)
Read subtitles Hay-Hay.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Hayley on November 24, 2012, 05:34:15 PM
Well balls. It looked weird to me okay.

Also that should be fixed on the wiki.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Jimmette on November 24, 2012, 05:39:09 PM
^
It's cool, I thought it was spelled 'Marian' at first. :innocent:
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Al Arlington on November 24, 2012, 07:17:39 PM
Going back to the Paparazzi mission, Mandy's nude model can briefly be seen in the Valentine's day trailer at 00:16.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E10dUIpDuoQ# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E10dUIpDuoQ#)]Bully: Valentine's Special Videourl]
You sure?
I could take a pic of her legs & it'd look like that.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: xXxNarumi on November 24, 2012, 07:44:01 PM
Thats just her towel modeled lol.
I usually have videos of me using that Mandy.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Red Blaster on November 25, 2012, 06:19:04 AM
Well balls. It looked weird to me okay.

Also that should be fixed on the wiki.


EPIC FAIL!

Fixed it on the wiki.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Red Blaster on November 25, 2012, 04:25:43 PM
Well balls. It looked weird to me okay.

Also that should be fixed on the wiki.


Btw, you are correct in that it's supposed to be Marian, since Marion is a masculine equivalent...I imagine it's a mistake on R*'s part.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: deadpoolXYZ on November 25, 2012, 08:07:46 PM
Well balls. It looked weird to me okay.

Also that should be fixed on the wiki.


Btw, you are correct in that it's supposed to be Marian, since Marion is a masculine equivalent...I imagine it's a mistake on R*'s part.

Are you sure?
The woman from the first Indiana Jones film name is Marion. ._.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Red Blaster on November 25, 2012, 09:20:04 PM
It can be used interchangeably, but generally Marion is more common among males, whereas Marian is the correct female counterpart.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: xXxNarumi on November 25, 2012, 10:15:56 PM
Either way it spelled doesn't really matter lol XD
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Red Blaster on November 25, 2012, 10:26:14 PM
Meh...doesn't hurt to talk about anything when the main topic is on hold.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: BloodChuckZ on November 26, 2012, 12:12:44 AM
I've seen Marion used for both here in the U.S.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: CrazyMan89 on November 28, 2012, 01:14:17 PM
Hey there, this is my first post....er well reply  :D, I read this whole thing and I was wondering has anyone tried looking for the site on the internet archive  thing? Just trying to lend a hand :) that's why I registered anyways :D www.archive.org (http://www.archive.org) is the site, hope this helps some :)
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: c00ld0c26 on November 28, 2012, 01:17:17 PM
Hey crazyman82 and welcome to B-B! Hope you enjoy ur stay and keep posting , There are a lot of intresting pepole / topics / posts here :D I was searching that site u gave but I didnt actully find much... But there are better pepole then me who can find a lot more then what I found (I only found bully scholarship edition info not beta)
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: CrazyMan89 on November 28, 2012, 02:18:36 PM
Thank you for the welcome! I found this site a couple of days ago, and to be honest I was surprised it still had current posters. :D
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Al Arlington on December 08, 2012, 08:14:11 AM
While installing Bully, I noticed this:
(http://uploadffs.nl/images/2012/12/08/0AoO7.png)

That doesn't look like Bullworth to me.....
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Jimmette on December 08, 2012, 08:15:13 AM
^
Hm.. Looks like Bullworth town a little..
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Al Arlington on December 08, 2012, 08:22:01 AM
It looks like New Coventry, but I don't recall seeing a road that huge or a dog like that or the parked car... :|
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: xXxNarumi on December 08, 2012, 11:58:43 AM
That Huge dog is the Doberman, (Maybe a STRAY DOG)
how ever its just a paint art for install screen was never gonna be added to the BETA or FINAL VERSION.
I have seen every last paint art concept that was made into BULLY.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Red Blaster on December 08, 2012, 12:13:40 PM
While installing Bully, I noticed this:
(http://uploadffs.nl/images/2012/12/08/0AoO7.png)

That doesn't look like Bullworth to me.....

That's New Coventry for sure. But keep in mind, this is what's known as concept art. It's supposed to give a basic idea of what's supposed to be in the game, NOT what's exactly in it.

I don't see anything out of the ordinary here...cars are seen in New Coventry, and you can also see dogs wandering around there from time to time.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Scum on December 08, 2012, 12:15:02 PM
Heheh, I really liked these painting things on the install menu, this one in particular.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Al Arlington on December 08, 2012, 03:14:58 PM
It made me think of GTA IV's Liberty City.

Also, it looks like Blue Skies Factories in the far background....
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Al Arlington on January 03, 2013, 05:39:49 PM
Bump.

As people know I've been uploading character audio files.

After listening to Mandy's, Discretion Assured may of had more posters.
"There's a whole bunch in the school"

Same for Paparazzi.
"Are you following me? You creep."
"Stop following me jerk"
"Your like totally following me, I'm so out of here" (I take this means mission failed)
"Get away from me"
Also maybe you had to chuck a stink bomb at her because of these quotes
Mandy_4-01_005_v1=OMG this is disgusting, I'll have to go change Oh my god! (Already in game)
Mandy_4-01_006_v1= I can't believe someone threw something like that at me
Mandy_4-01_006_v2= I can't wait to get out of these clothes. (Already ingame)
Mandy_4-01_022_v1=Some weirdo threw something at me! I can't believe it!


So in my opinion, Paparazzi may of been like this:
Follow Mandy
Chuck stink bomb at Mandy



And also one funny quote was from the Big Game (I presume)
"Guys, Ricky's being a perv!"


Zoe and Jimmy may of been more flirty with each other.
"Don't start frothing at the mouth, I just washed this shirt."

Jimmy may have been more aggressive.
Too many quotes.

All the girls have fighting, chasing and out of breath quotes.
Meaning girls may have been fight-able after all.


Also girls have quotes called "name_CARNREC_V1/V2"
Name being the girls name.
Along with something like this.
That was totally thrilling!
I am so excited!

Dates were planned perhaps?
 

And also each girl has a "Groom" quote where they say something like "Eat your hearts out boys"


EDIT:
Uploaded all the GROOM CARNREC and Paparazzi quotes.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Red Blaster on January 04, 2013, 02:41:29 AM
Boys also have grooming and carnival quotes too, just FYI.

Also, that quote "Guys, Ricky's being a perv, help me!" is from the deleted mission where you have to get Damon in trouble.

Also, Mandy has some funnier quotes in Paparazzi, my favorite being the one that's like: "Don't touch me you perverted, twisted, sicko, peeping-tom, creepy son of a bitch!"

And the other one: "Get out of here you sleazy, sick, slimy pig! GET OUT!"

Not sure if those are used or not.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Al Arlington on January 04, 2013, 04:43:25 AM
I think the second quote was, as I did go close to the shower on my first playthrough.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Red Blaster on January 04, 2013, 11:24:46 AM
IIRC, she just screams if you get close to the shower.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: xXxNarumi on January 04, 2013, 11:54:29 AM
She probably punch the shit outa people in the Beta if she was being watched.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Walter20210 on March 07, 2013, 04:22:00 PM
I found something new
(Thanks to swegta for send me this photo showing pedro beta)
(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100823154950/bullygame/images/4/46/Caucasian_pedro.jpg)

If you look the prefect it haves a criket bat :O
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: xXxNarumi on March 07, 2013, 04:31:18 PM
Seth looks different the other 2 behind them wearing blue uniforms.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: BloodChuckZ on March 07, 2013, 10:09:18 PM
....Or is that just a Big Paddle ?
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: SWEGTA on March 08, 2013, 01:53:14 AM
I found something new
(Thanks to swegta for send me this photo showing pedro beta)
(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100823154950/bullygame/images/4/46/Caucasian_pedro.jpg)

If you look the prefect it haves a criket bat :O

Actually I found it and sent it to you.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Evolution on March 08, 2013, 04:26:44 AM
^ Want a cookie bro? :P
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: SWEGTA on March 08, 2013, 10:15:52 AM
Yes, I would.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: XXz on March 08, 2013, 04:49:20 PM
Is it possible to find a beta of Bully anywhere?
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: SWEGTA on March 08, 2013, 04:57:01 PM
No.
And I'm actually pretty sick of people randomly messaging about it.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Al Arlington on March 08, 2013, 05:47:35 PM
Derby had something red underneath his sweater in the beta.

You can see it in early trailers.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: deadpoolXYZ on March 08, 2013, 05:52:06 PM
Derby had something red underneath his sweater in the beta.

You can see it in early trailers.

I posted it in page number 6.

(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c15/Iceman1988/Bul12.jpg)

I also noticed that Gord is using his winter outfit while Derby and Bif are not using them. Is it possible that Gord was meant to use the aquaberry sweater aswell as Tad?
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: xXxNarumi on March 08, 2013, 05:56:48 PM
Also Jimmy was suppose to be able to use a Run punch.
Those run headbutt thingy were only meant for big people like Damon.
Also his combos were different.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: XXz on March 08, 2013, 07:47:41 PM
I'm not sure of this has been asked,
But can someone tell me the names of every weapon removed from the final edition?
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Al Arlington on March 09, 2013, 11:33:34 AM
I'm not sure of this has been asked,
But can someone tell me the names of every weapon removed from the final edition?
http://bully.wikia.com/wiki/Weapons_in_Bully#Removed_from_game (http://bully.wikia.com/wiki/Weapons_in_Bully#Removed_from_game)


Also, I've noticed someone's used my picture for the Super SpudGun. XD



Canis Canem Edit Beta (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TFetoEztLs#)
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: XXz on March 09, 2013, 05:19:23 PM
Wow, thank you for the links. I can see why they took the bb gun out, the game was banned in Argentina, with the gun it probably would have been banned in more countries.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Walter20210 on March 09, 2013, 05:34:12 PM
Banned in argentina? :confused:
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: deadpoolXYZ on March 09, 2013, 06:47:26 PM
Wow, thank you for the links. I can see why they took the bb gun out, the game was banned in Argentina, with the gun it probably would have been banned in more countries.

I live in Argentina and bought the game. Both ps2 and wii versions of the game.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: xXxNarumi on March 09, 2013, 06:51:40 PM
Wow, thank you for the links. I can see why they took the bb gun out, the game was banned in Argentina, with the gun it probably would have been banned in more countries.

Nope.
Banned cause aiming at people for once make them say scary dialogs.
Pointing it at kids it a big problem and Jack Thompson was already pissed on that.
Also you going around school and shooting cops on a semi simulator based game.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: XXz on March 09, 2013, 08:41:41 PM
Wow, thank you for the links. I can see why they took the bb gun out, the game was banned in Argentina, with the gun it probably would have been banned in more countries.

I live in Argentina and bought the game. Both ps2 and wii versions of the game.

Really? I was reading about banned games somewhere a while ago and it said "Bully (including Scholarship Edition)
 
Banned for showing violence and harassment in a school setting."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banned_video_games#Argentina (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banned_video_games#Argentina)
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Walter20210 on March 09, 2013, 08:44:20 PM
I think wiki its saying another thing

(http://i.imgur.com/5UeC52P.png)

Pretty funny at all in argentina there is a lot of games :D (im not talking of that banned game)
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: xXxNarumi on March 09, 2013, 09:21:51 PM
Yes! ban Rapelay and sue the owner.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Evolution on March 09, 2013, 09:25:02 PM
Even though some games may be banned in a few countries (Like Brazil or whatever) some shops still sell them anyways because the Law don't really give a shit anyways.

And Piratebay is an obvious solution to those who are too cheap to buy the game or can't for whatever reason.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: xXxNarumi on March 09, 2013, 09:39:07 PM
In UK you cannot go to that website.
I use IsoHunt anyways.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Evolution on March 09, 2013, 09:44:28 PM
No, I think you can in the UK, though.

Piratebay changed it from .org to .se

Idk though, if it was, then it sucks for them.

Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Al Arlington on March 18, 2013, 09:57:24 AM
BUMP!

I think there may have been a animation for Jimmy when he saves the game, because I was looking in props.dat and found "animsave.agr, animsave.col, animsave.nif animsave.nft and animsave.cat."
When I looked at it in NifSkope....
(http://uploadffs.nl/images/2013/03/18/dMxc.png)

And zooming in I saw a page that said "BLARRGH" on it.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: deadpoolXYZ on March 18, 2013, 06:28:22 PM
If you try to shoot with the superspudgun even if there is no ammo you will hear a sound. Like when you try to shoot with a sniper rifle in gta without aiming first.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: xXxNarumi on March 18, 2013, 06:45:20 PM
You got the super spug gun working!?
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Walter20210 on March 18, 2013, 06:46:33 PM
More easy impossible
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: deadpoolXYZ on March 19, 2013, 08:42:59 AM
You got the super spug gun working!?

Yes and no. I created a custom lua script that everytime i pressed the crouch button (C) Jimmy earned a super spud gun. Each time i pressed that button the weapon spawned for half a seccond in Jimmy's hands and then dissappeared. If I hold the button Jimmy has the weapon all the time but it can't shoot. Instead I hear that weird sound.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Al Arlington on March 19, 2013, 03:47:33 PM
This: Bully SE Jealous Johnny BETA Audio (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCUCs3ZgcBg&feature=youtu.be#)
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Walter20210 on March 19, 2013, 04:26:36 PM
I created a custom lua script th..
LIER you just change some words >.<
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: xXxNarumi on March 19, 2013, 09:55:45 PM
Ok now that I noticed.
We'll never understand the entire Bully Storylines with so many Removed Mission and some scripts being hidden.
ROCKSTAR GAMES, Y'ALL ARE BUNCH OF DUMBASSES.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Al Arlington on March 20, 2013, 04:07:17 AM
I remember when I first played Bully and did the mission where you have to rescue Algie from the Greasers, I thought to myself "I've never seen a Pizza Parlour in this game."
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: 41hc1OLD on March 23, 2013, 02:47:13 PM
Wasn't there supposed to be an original Xbox version?
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Al Arlington on March 23, 2013, 06:04:24 PM
Yes, like the PS2.
I don't know why it was canceled, but maybe it was for the best. Stop fanboyism over Bully.

"Shame Bully wasn't remade for PS3. :'("
"LOL U FAGIT IT WUZ REMADE 4 XB0X COS XB0X IS TEH BEST!"
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: 41hc1OLD on March 23, 2013, 06:44:01 PM
Why do you think I'm starting a console war? I'm not trying to start a console war, I could really care less about that. I was just asking about that version, because I thought it was only a rumor. They probably just canceled it because of the Scholarship Edition.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: BloodChuckZ on March 23, 2013, 08:02:48 PM
No harn, No foul.  BSA wuz just bein' silly. 
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Evolution on March 23, 2013, 08:05:23 PM
Yeh, just bein' a silly boosackkk.


Anyways, Bully, was, in fact released on teh PS3. (PS Store)
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Al Arlington on March 24, 2013, 06:13:10 AM
Why do you think I'm starting a console war? I'm not trying to start a console war, I could really care less about that. I was just asking about that version, because I thought it was only a rumor. They probably just canceled it because of the Scholarship Edition.
I never said that. All I said was that some people would say stuff like that. Especially on YouTube.

Also Bully PS2 was mad in 2006 and Scholarship Edition was made in 2008 and the 360 was quite new in 2006*

I say that as I don't know exactly when the 360 came out but I know Dead Rising 1 was on the 360 and that was made in '06.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Walter20210 on March 27, 2013, 11:19:17 AM
New beta photos :D (Thanks to me xD)

Beta Earnest
(http://www.tylersart.com/portfolio/rstar_bully13.jpg)

Beta (?) i dont remember is name
(http://www.tylersart.com/portfolio/rstar_bully10.jpg)
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: WhenLifeGivesYouLemons on March 27, 2013, 01:20:36 PM
Beta Earnest! so cool Walter : D
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: xXxNarumi on March 27, 2013, 03:06:00 PM
ROCKSTAR RACIST
THEY MADE HER WHITE ON FINAL VER BUT BLACK ON BETA CAUSE THEY SAID ITS TO BAD FOR HER BEING BLACK
FUCKING RACISTS!!!
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Walter20210 on March 27, 2013, 04:36:55 PM
Yeah and they remove is patch on the eye

(I say thanks to me because i say to im to upload more photos)
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Vaidas on March 29, 2013, 05:23:59 AM
Walter i love you! (no human) You really good at findind these fotos? where do you find these? :rolleyes:
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Evolution on March 29, 2013, 05:28:01 AM
ROCKSTAR RACIST
THEY MADE HER WHITE ON FINAL VER BUT BLACK ON BETA CAUSE THEY SAID ITS TO BAD FOR HER BEING BLACK
FUCKING RACISTS!!!

Not racism, lol.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Vaidas on March 29, 2013, 05:31:14 AM
I think removed scary characters because kids will dream nightmares on that :D Imagine kid playing bully in the night. stuck at corridors at school night and then scary prefect coming. I have been deleted that game because it's scary. But why they need to delete them? Modeling characters is hard because you need make many textures and details.  :cool:
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Vaidas on March 29, 2013, 05:58:01 AM
 Uh. What about beta bully + halloween? :D  :wacko:
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: xXxNarumi on March 29, 2013, 06:22:53 AM
I think removed scary characters because kids will dream nightmares on that :D Imagine kid playing bully in the night. stuck at corridors at school night and then scary prefect coming. I have been deleted that game because it's scary. But why they need to delete them? Modeling characters is hard because you need make many textures and details.  :cool:

Note even close.
Jack Thompson was one of the Number one reason it was changed.
Bully Beta had more gays in it to kiss.
Which was the last kissable character being made was Bob which he was just designed to not show up on the game but can be simply added back.
Also RockStar always changing games from Prototype to Final version.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Vaidas on March 29, 2013, 07:48:26 AM
Uh. If there was bully alive i think that was made in 1960 ^-^
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: xXxNarumi on March 29, 2013, 10:29:23 AM
I don't understand.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Vaidas on March 30, 2013, 09:18:44 AM
I mean if there was bully beta alive.. (you can play it) I think the timeline would be 1960 because school uniforms are very old and characters...
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: xXxNarumi on March 30, 2013, 01:43:01 PM
Bully Beta was always based on the 90's or 2000
Era never changed.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Walter20210 on April 21, 2013, 09:25:14 PM
Tyler wilson haves more photos but he dont put them on is site
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: xXxNarumi on April 22, 2013, 07:33:17 PM
He has bully beta I bet.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Walter20210 on May 06, 2013, 05:34:24 PM
nah he doesnt accept rockstar to test the game and...

(http://www.tylersart.com/portfolio/rstar_bully07.jpg)

see is left arm
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: xXxNarumi on May 06, 2013, 06:08:51 PM
Jack Thompson has Bully Beta.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: deadpoolXYZ on May 07, 2013, 06:17:38 PM
This thread is dying. D:

The music that plays during detention was supposed to be used in the maze room in "funhouse fun" and the music in "help gary" was in the miner room.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Vaidas on May 14, 2013, 08:11:17 AM
This thread is dying. D:

The music that plays during detention was supposed to be used in the maze room in "funhouse fun" and the music in "help gary" was in the miner room.
How do you know ?  :hmm:
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Walter20210 on May 14, 2013, 08:19:24 AM
For is names in the music files and in the OST.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Mordred on May 18, 2013, 12:46:32 PM
On official page "facebook" Johnny is mentioned to be Bullworth Hot Rod Club President. I realize it's not much of a beta material I still wonder why it's not mentioned anywhere in the game.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Al Arlington on May 18, 2013, 01:40:33 PM
On official page "facebook" Johnny is mentioned to be Bullworth Hot Rod Club President. I realize it's not much of a beta material I still wonder why it's not mentioned anywhere in the game.
It's like most things on Bully's facebook. Pete has the highest arcade score too.

Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Red Blaster on May 19, 2013, 03:47:04 AM
On official page "facebook" Johnny is mentioned to be Bullworth Hot Rod Club President. I realize it's not much of a beta material I still wonder why it's not mentioned anywhere in the game.

Welcome to B-B, Mordred.

Anyways, the facebook has a bunch of information that never really came to fruition.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Walter20210 on May 23, 2013, 11:34:42 AM
There is a lot of beta/unused strafes in game

For example when you give Strafe_Default to greasers style.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: 41hc1 on June 15, 2013, 09:43:54 PM
I do have the original PS2 version, and there's nothing about the "oh spank me" cutscene unfortunately. In fact, the PC version has much more unused audio than the original PS2 version.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Al Arlington on June 16, 2013, 10:35:57 AM
Speaking of audio, I extracted all the music from the PC version and found a DIFFERENT Final Showdown theme. [6 versions of Final Showdown in general]
Along with a "Tourney" which is a crowd chanting "JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY!!" along with clapping.


The 6 Final Showdown tracks I found were:
MS_FinalShowdown03High
MS_FinalShowdown03Low
MS_FinalShowdown03Mid
MS_FinalShowdownHigh [BETA]
MS_FinalShowdownLow [BETA]
MS_FinalShowdownMid [BETA]
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Red Blaster on June 16, 2013, 12:30:55 PM
The different one is used in Rats in the Library.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Al Arlington on June 18, 2013, 07:10:11 AM
The medium version I think. The other 2 weren't used at all.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Quinn on June 18, 2013, 01:19:25 PM
Really, That's a suprise..
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Xwatch1009 on June 19, 2013, 02:52:36 PM
After looking through world.img, I did infact find some beta material. For example, Jimmy's face wearing a Happy Volts Asylum mask. For some reason it made me have goosebumps when I found it.  :neen:

EDIT: I also found a way to actually put the face on Jimmy. His eyes are extra shiny for some reason.  :hmm:
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Al Arlington on June 19, 2013, 04:46:22 PM
What was it's name in the world.img? This I gotta see!
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Walter20210 on June 19, 2013, 05:06:50 PM
AsylumMask.nif/ntf.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Scum on June 19, 2013, 05:12:27 PM
Post some pics! I'm creaming my pants over here! O:
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Al Arlington on June 19, 2013, 05:30:34 PM
Working on it.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Al Arlington on June 19, 2013, 05:42:47 PM
Here: (http://uploadffs.nl/images/2013/06/19/j9tpE.png)

Also I think it was Red, told me that after Panty Raid, you'd unlock a new "Hat"

Here it is: (http://uploadffs.nl/images/2013/06/19/Xvauo.png)

Yes, that is Jimmy wearing girls underwear on his head.

Don't believe me? Search up panties.nif/nft. You'll get a few results but the one Jimmy "wears" is just called panties.nif panties.nft.

E: Fuck I messed up the picture. It was supposed to show it from each angle.
Ah well.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: SWEGTA on June 20, 2013, 03:01:11 PM
^I found those a while back.
The Panties have no working animation, though the asylum mask has fully working anims.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Walter20210 on June 20, 2013, 03:07:11 PM
Yeah there is like 3 models of the panties

All of the 3 if i remember fine they have jimmy head.

I dont remember wich one works.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Al Arlington on June 20, 2013, 03:15:26 PM
The 3 are:
The ones you see on the floor during Panty Raid.
The bunch you give to Mr Burton at the end.
The ones Jimmy wears.

If you include the ones you see when a girl is knocked out, make it 9.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Walter20210 on June 20, 2013, 03:28:45 PM
heh ok

And there is a weird one.

Find For PEANUTUNDIE.Nft/Nif
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Al Arlington on June 20, 2013, 05:45:39 PM
What is that?
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Walter20210 on June 20, 2013, 05:56:52 PM
Nothing interesting.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: SWEGTA on June 20, 2013, 06:50:14 PM
I think that originally Peanut was supposed to be the one sneaking into the girls dorm, stealing their underwear and you'd have to beat him up and return them to their rightfull owners.
Or something like that.

There are unused voicefiles if I'm not mistaken regarding this.
Not sure though.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: AlphaTech on June 28, 2013, 08:56:16 PM
Hey I've been reading this for the last few days it is amazing lots of different things not even released in Bully's original launch. Maybe they could be added back some how?
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Walter20210 on July 06, 2013, 01:27:56 AM
In the beta the Second in command was another characters.

Atleast in some Factions/Cliques.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: c00ld0c26 on July 06, 2013, 03:53:42 AM
Hey I've been reading this for the last few days it is amazing lots of different things not even released in Bully's original launch. Maybe they could be added back some how?

Walter is making a beta bully mod :D
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Walter20210 on July 06, 2013, 05:12:33 PM
There was breakable trashcans

Can be founded in the test are.

There is 3.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: deadpoolXYZ on July 06, 2013, 05:42:05 PM
There was breakable trashcans

Can be founded in the test are.

There is 3.

You can find them in the autoshop area too.  :P
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Mick3Mouse on July 06, 2013, 05:46:57 PM
How do i play the test area?
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Walter20210 on July 06, 2013, 06:21:13 PM
There was breakable trashcans

Can be founded in the test are.

There is 3.

You can find them in the autoshop area too.  :P

No is not those trashcans

In this ones you can hide in them.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Walter20210 on July 06, 2013, 10:58:17 PM
Johnny only was having 2 combos and they was different

He didnt use punchs btw.


Im just explaining a little more :D
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Walter20210 on July 07, 2013, 12:00:47 AM
He was having 2 attacks

1. Punch, Punch and Axe kick

2. Punch, Punch and Roundhouse
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Walter20210 on July 07, 2013, 12:45:37 AM
Yeah sorry my bad.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Red Blaster on July 09, 2013, 11:51:19 AM
I don't know if I mentioned this already, but in Christmas, the music playing in every store was meant to be Christmas themed.

Also, there were 4 emitters that were meant to be placed somewhere in the game map during Christmas, and they would play different holiday tunes (there's 4 of them). One is Jingle Bells, the other is Deck the Halls, and another one of them is Dance of the Sugarplum Fairy. The last one, I forgot the name of.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Red Blaster on July 09, 2013, 11:55:32 AM
Anybody recognize this?

Bully: Scholarship Edition - Xmas Tree Emitter (Song 2) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lE4aYq-_H9U#)
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Evolution on July 09, 2013, 12:09:18 PM
Did that song play during a 'Santa' mission ?... Like, the one where the crack head alcoholic Santa tries to ruin the 'other' Santa's business.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Walter20210 on July 09, 2013, 02:11:04 PM
I keep wondering why they fucked up the game so much :/

Btw another thing The Green Ninja Outfit was suppused to be white.

But they changed it for some reason. :/
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Red Blaster on July 10, 2013, 01:06:01 AM
Did that song play during a 'Santa' mission ?... Like, the one where the crack head alcoholic Santa tries to ruin the 'other' Santa's business.

Nope. I already explained what this song is in the previous post.

The Deck the Halls song is used as an ambient file as well, which is played in the mission with the kids.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: BloodChuckZ on July 10, 2013, 07:08:46 AM
Anybody recognize this?

Bully: Scholarship Edition - Xmas Tree Emitter (Song 2) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lE4aYq-_H9U#)

Hark, The Herald Angles Sing.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Red Blaster on July 10, 2013, 01:25:55 PM
Thanks, Chuck.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Nanomachines,son on July 11, 2013, 09:48:47 AM
:D rockstar, why'd you remove the better soundtrack from bully?
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: 41hc1 on July 21, 2013, 02:02:10 PM
:D rockstar, why'd you remove the better soundtrack from bully?
I'll ask them myself. I actually live very close to Rockstar New England. I saw that they don't allow tours of the studios unfortunately.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: davis42 on July 27, 2013, 06:59:47 AM
Guessing by the details Red had given us, the beta bully was gonna be 'far' much better, bigger(more adventure and exploring), more buildings were accessible and more beautiful. The game room would have been cool along with the sewers and the elevator. Best part was the bigger map cuz i feel that bully's map is quite small, compared to gta series. Can't believe that r* chose to sacrifice the greatness of the beta for t rating, and that donkey jack. I hope they make Bully 2 much better than 1 without worrying about m.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: SWEGTA on July 27, 2013, 07:38:23 AM
There might have been too many restrictions for the engine that they used for the ps2.
Then on scholarship edition, they realised that it was too late.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: deadpoolXYZ on July 27, 2013, 02:43:20 PM
Guessing by the details Red had given us, the beta bully was gonna be 'far' much better, bigger(more adventure and exploring), more buildings were accessible and more beautiful. The game room would have been cool along with the sewers and the elevator. Best part was the bigger map cuz i feel that bully's map is quite small, compared to gta series. Can't believe that r* chose to sacrifice the greatness of the beta for t rating, and that donkey jack. I hope they make Bully 2 much better than 1 without worrying about m.

The sewer is the school basement.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: davis42 on July 27, 2013, 04:02:08 PM
There might have been too many restrictions for the engine that they used for the ps2.
Then on scholarship edition, they realised that it was too late.
Yeah, that's one point among the others or maybe it's the reason at all. I wish thompson never stuck his nose in the first place. Woulda let rockstar and us be left alone to judge it but no, he seems to hate r and their success so much that he tried to abolish manhunt, gta4 etc. Why he don't understand that this is a fight he can't win? He's up against the best! Also, r must 'seriously' stop worrying about m, if they want to make bully 2 a real stunner, like gta.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Red Blaster on July 27, 2013, 08:50:45 PM
@deadpool: I thought so too, but Mad disagrees based on the layout he saw.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Nanomachines,son on July 27, 2013, 11:37:07 PM
Speaking of audio, I extracted all the music from the PC version and found a DIFFERENT Final Showdown theme. [6 versions of Final Showdown in general]
Along with a "Tourney" which is a crowd chanting "JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY!!" along with clapping.


The 6 Final Showdown tracks I found were:
MS_FinalShowdown03High
MS_FinalShowdown03Low
MS_FinalShowdown03Mid
MS_FinalShowdownHigh [BETA]
MS_FinalShowdownLow [BETA]
MS_FinalShowdownMid [BETA]
chanting would probably be used in the jock boss battle
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: 41hc1 on July 28, 2013, 01:59:19 AM
Speaking of audio, I extracted all the music from the PC version and found a DIFFERENT Final Showdown theme. [6 versions of Final Showdown in general]
Along with a "Tourney" which is a crowd chanting "JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY!!" along with clapping.


The 6 Final Showdown tracks I found were:
MS_FinalShowdown03High
MS_FinalShowdown03Low
MS_FinalShowdown03Mid
MS_FinalShowdownHigh [BETA]
MS_FinalShowdownLow [BETA]
MS_FinalShowdownMid [BETA]
Those are the unused ones from Rats in the Library right? Bully Scholarship Edition Soundtrack - Rats in the Library (Low) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otRvefXitCc#) I guess Beach Rumble was to have it's own unique theme.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Al Arlington on July 28, 2013, 10:19:57 AM
Yes. The beta Final Showdown song was used for Rats in the Library for some reason.

Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: 41hc1 on July 28, 2013, 02:52:10 PM
Hey guys do you need a link for all soundtrack?
There's one here: http://www.mediafire.com/?3e9o88tsyb2g3 (http://www.mediafire.com/?3e9o88tsyb2g3)
Yes. The beta Final Showdown song was used for Rats in the Library for some reason.
Strange how the crowd would have calmed down after the huge fight they were in.

(http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/BullyBoy_971.jpg)
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: KiLerZolika on July 29, 2013, 10:38:23 AM
Not sure If this is true or false, But I think Bully has unused Interiors like GTA:SA does. In the minimap I can see interiors that I've never seen in the Final game, however Teleporting to it is impossible, because I did a little test with a Teleport Trainer, If the Boys dorm and the School's main bulding is in the same Place. But I think I screwed up something because I always land in the Water. I bet those interiors are well decorated.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: 41hc1 on July 29, 2013, 03:50:19 PM
What was in beta Bully:
- An interior for Come Hither, which was removed. Won't reveal more than that.

- Interiors for other stores too.

- A sewers interior.

- A circuit tower interior in the go-kart track where you can bet on races.

- The boy's dorm originally was a trashy version of the girl's dorm.

- A functioning merry-go-around.

- A much larger map...like, GTA big.

- There was supposed to be a game room interior inside the beta boy's dorm.

- The elevator in the school basement was supposed to take you to the school roof.
Is there any audio about the Come Hiter interior? You can assume it did have an interior because of Panty Raid.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: residenteviloutbreak on August 05, 2013, 04:46:20 PM
I can just imagine how the "Gary Dies" scenario would of played out.

Jimmy and Gary fall from the roof, as they do in retail, except rather than retail, they are knocked out. Jimmy wakes from a coma with his weird parents, Peter and dr Crabblesnitch (or whatever its spelled), looking at him. They all leave the room besides Peter, who informs Jimmy that Gary was killed in the fall. Something like this.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: BloodChuckZ on August 06, 2013, 01:32:31 AM
I don't understand how they lived after that fall anyway. 

WTF ?
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: residenteviloutbreak on August 06, 2013, 01:34:19 AM
I don't understand how they lived after that fall anyway. 

WTF ?

It would of been funny to of had:

Jimmy lands on Gary breaking his fall, killing gary. lmao  :biggrin:
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: F3ARTHEL33T on September 16, 2013, 07:14:32 PM
i found a beta russell when he was a punk also mole aka melvin Bully Beta - Mole (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igtGfgvyLQg#) and johnny was a kung fu fighting ass kicker as seen in Bully Beta - Johnny Fighting Style (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyAGWoRohig#)
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: WhenLifeGivesYouLemons on September 16, 2013, 07:15:48 PM
The fighting styles are beta not the models.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Walter20210 on September 16, 2013, 08:35:29 PM
These are just concept art models/test models.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Al Arlington on October 08, 2013, 11:35:45 AM
I can just imagine how the "Gary Dies" scenario would of played out.

Jimmy and Gary fall from the roof, as they do in retail, except rather than retail, they are knocked out. Jimmy wakes from a coma with his weird parents, Peter and dr Crabblesnitch (or whatever its spelled), looking at him. They all leave the room besides Peter, who informs Jimmy that Gary was killed in the fall. Something like this.
Because kids getting killed would get Bully banned.

Not sure If this is true or false, But I think Bully has unused Interiors like GTA:SA does. In the minimap I can see interiors that I've never seen in the Final game, however Teleporting to it is impossible, because I did a little test with a Teleport Trainer, If the Boys dorm and the School's main bulding is in the same Place. But I think I screwed up something because I always land in the Water. I bet those interiors are well decorated.
Wouldn't surprise me. Every game has a beta area left in the files.
Then it's up to modders/hardcore glitchers to access it.

Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Walter20210 on October 08, 2013, 04:49:47 PM
There is a lot of unused interiors in the game and actually most of these interiors you see in the map/radar are other interiors that are in the same map, There is a huge map with all the interiors but only as texture because is just for show, and it works similar to gta sa for example there is different "worlds"

And The Rumble was supussed to have more chaos, For example there it was a truck crashed into a pole.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Nanomachines,son on October 09, 2013, 08:59:20 PM
damn you to hell rockstar!! :(
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: c00ld0c26 on October 11, 2013, 02:04:11 AM
From what ive found when failing to spawn a certain interor or just used a trainer to glitch ect... I believe that the whole map's void (whats under all the buildings and stuff) is full with water under it, unlike GTA SA where it has nothing down there but random invinsible walls and gray, brown and black lights and stuff.
Aswell, Bully's void respawner is much more limited in the amount of distance from the objects compared to GTA SA.
In GTA SA you can get around 20 meters down before respawning, while in bully I'd guess around 8 meters, aswell some parts of the void in GTA SA is actully much deeper and the respawn distance limit can be really far down and you can countinue going down for minutes before the screen goes black and you respawn.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Mick3Mouse on October 11, 2013, 06:39:30 AM
the beta was much better it seems like
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: deadpoolXYZ on October 11, 2013, 04:17:34 PM
From what ive found when failing to spawn a certain interor or just used a trainer to glitch ect... I believe that the whole map's void (whats under all the buildings and stuff) is full with water under it, unlike GTA SA where it has nothing down there but random invinsible walls and gray, brown and black lights and stuff.
Aswell, Bully's void respawner is much more limited in the amount of distance from the objects compared to GTA SA.
In GTA SA you can get around 20 meters down before respawning, while in bully I'd guess around 8 meters, aswell some parts of the void in GTA SA is actully much deeper and the respawn distance limit can be really far down and you can countinue going down for minutes before the screen goes black and you respawn.

They probably did that so if people exploited map or collision glitches to reach unused interiors, the "pink" water could prevent them from getting there.

The random invisible walls are actually buildings/interiors which didn't load their textures since you are in a different interior ID (also known as "heavens").
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: GaryHarrington on October 21, 2013, 08:15:36 AM
Someone said that Hal was supposed to be a bully in the first place, I think.

yeah and damon was a preppy but in final version he get swapped with chad and he became a jock like ted
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Al Arlington on October 30, 2013, 01:35:14 PM
Someone said that Hal was supposed to be a bully in the first place, I think.

Hal apparently had a removed quote in the very early copies of Bully:
"When I'm done hittin' you, Russell'll sit on you!"
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Walter20210 on October 30, 2013, 09:30:06 PM
Actually he was saying.

"After Russell hit's you, I gonna sit on you!"
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Nanomachines,son on October 30, 2013, 09:51:18 PM
lol :D
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: KING DP on November 02, 2013, 11:54:34 AM
Damon a bacon seller
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Nanomachines,son on November 02, 2013, 09:14:00 PM
what?
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: KING DP on November 03, 2013, 01:40:28 AM
^just kidding........he was a Mcdonald worker
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Nanomachines,son on November 03, 2013, 09:33:50 PM
but bacon's awesome! dammit!
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: KING DP on November 20, 2013, 09:23:14 AM
what is the taste of bacon?never ate it
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: BloodChuckZ on November 22, 2013, 10:27:57 PM
Half of it is cooked Pig Fat.  Yummy.   :neen:
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Nanomachines,son on November 23, 2013, 08:36:06 AM
what is the taste of bacon?never ate it
it tastes like heaven if god made meat
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: KING DP on November 23, 2013, 09:19:52 AM
what is the taste of bacon?never ate it
it tastes like heaven if god made meat
tell me real taste,i never even tasted meat.is bacon spicy or what?
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: BloodChuckZ on November 23, 2013, 01:01:42 PM
In your country I know that some of you don't eat meat, DP.
Is that true in your case ?
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: KING DP on November 24, 2013, 10:20:35 AM
some people are vegetarian and some are non-veg.People think killing & eating animals is bad.
I am a veg. too,because my father hates it.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: BloodChuckZ on November 24, 2013, 01:29:51 PM
I can see their point, killing is bad.  However, me not eating meat won't stop the slaughter.

And, there's nothing quite as good as a juicy steak.  If I don't eat it, someone else will.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Nanomachines,son on November 24, 2013, 09:38:47 PM
bacon tastes like greasy meat which tastes good and steak is the best
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: WhenLifeGivesYouLemons on December 19, 2013, 05:22:11 PM
Beta concepts were awesome :3 A shame they cut soooooooooooooooooooooo much out of the final version.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Al Arlington on December 23, 2013, 01:17:43 PM
Hattrick VS Galloway may have taken place as a side mission in Chapter 1.

I have the cutscene audio and the audio file for the mission is called "1-S01"
Now, all the cutscenes have the chapter as the first number for their audio.

Also probably already mentioned but the beta intro was the opening credits without the music AND with a few extra lines of dialogue. And GMan123 has a beta mission in Chapter 3 on his YT channel.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: AlphaTech on January 18, 2014, 11:39:55 AM
In the beta you probably were able to switch characters in missions. In the dodge ball games you are able to do this, so it probably was possible.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: johnny1248 on January 19, 2014, 11:18:15 AM
How can i dig to the voicefiles ?
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Mick3Mouse on January 29, 2014, 05:08:17 AM
ASK IN QUESTIONS!!!1
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Walter20210 on February 12, 2014, 09:52:46 PM
In the Mission Fighting Johnny Vicent it was suppused to have a cutscene when he gets his bike magnetized with the magnet.

Also the fight was suppused to be while it was raining, and also when he hitted you with is axe kick attack, he was going to blind you for a second with mud (The screen turns brown for a second and then it goes back to normal)

Something mentioned by Lemon : In the mission "This is your school" you was suppused to help Bucky too. (According to the audio files or the text files if i remember fine)
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Mick3Mouse on February 26, 2014, 07:41:03 AM
^
Intresting....
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Scum on February 27, 2014, 12:22:21 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lw9LUv_V2P8# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lw9LUv_V2P8#)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJ6MfZDBLjs# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJ6MfZDBLjs#)

Listen to these. I've seen some of the beta dialogue in a thread around here, but never heard it. Just from these two videos I learned about a whole buncha shit from the beta, it's amazing. For one, Garry was supposed to play the Dodgeball games with you. Just. Just listen to them.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Sphinx on March 21, 2014, 11:13:41 AM
I think Troy may have originally been a Jock. He talks about his muscles and being tough a lot. And when he's out of breath he says he needs new steroids.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Sphinx on April 02, 2014, 11:15:59 AM
And I know it could just be because he's a stupid kid trying to be cool in some way, but Peanut was short in the beta, and his lines weren't changed.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Scum on April 04, 2014, 06:45:30 AM
If I remember correctly Jimmy has a lone or two in which he's talking to Mr. Smith as herefers to his gold chain(and moustache too I think but I'm really, really not sure right now).
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Sphinx on April 07, 2014, 10:05:12 AM
I bet the bully's turf was the autoshop in the beta. A bunch of the missions in Chapter one involve beating up the bullies at the autoshop. Davis runs to the autoshop in The Setup. In Help Bucky the bullies jump Bucky at the autoshop, and Thad is fighting the bullies at the autoshop in Character Sheets. And The Greasers probably hung out at the Chem Plant since there are tags saying 'Greasers rule" at the top.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Screenracer on April 22, 2014, 08:31:22 AM
Jimmy has some removed audio heard in the trailers.

Like this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRFTPbBElcg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRFTPbBElcg)

Specificly at 0:17 and 0:20

And this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Okl4ElRg8c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Okl4ElRg8c)

Specificly at 0:45

In the final game, when Jimmy gets hurt, he uses the same sound as the other peds. But in the trailers he dosnt. I checked Jimmy's audio files and they were removed.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Scum on April 22, 2014, 09:20:43 AM
Actually, the 'charity service' one is from the start of Chapter 3 cutscene, when Peanut tells Jimmy that Johnny needs his help.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Screenracer on April 22, 2014, 09:48:15 AM
Actually, the 'charity service' one is from the start of Chapter 3 cutscene, when Peanut tells Jimmy that Johnny needs his help.

I know. Im not talking about that sound. In the trailer when Jimmy gets hurt he makes a different sound then he does in the final game.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: BloodChuckZ on April 22, 2014, 10:47:31 AM
I bet the bully's turf was the autoshop in the beta. A bunch of the missions in Chapter one involve beating up the bullies at the autoshop. Davis runs to the autoshop in The Setup. In Help Bucky the bullies jump Bucky at the autoshop, and Thad is fighting the bullies at the autoshop in Character Sheets. And The Greasers probably hung out at the Chem Plant since there are tags saying 'Greasers rule" at the top.

Hey, thanks, I'd kinda forgotten about that. 
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Scum on April 22, 2014, 12:04:42 PM
I really hate just how much dialogue was cut out of the game.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Sphinx on April 22, 2014, 01:26:18 PM
Edgar has an unused attack, I read about it but wasn't so sure of it. But I was on one of my old saves that was just after Jimmy gets expelled, I did busting in and it was all normal, I was fighting Edgar but I got distracted and he knocked me out, no problem, but I made the game glitch, I had Edgar out of breath and I beat him up, he ran to the door, I was blocking the door, he headbutted me through the door and I followed him down. There was no cutscene for the boss fight.

He just walked around me with his fighting stance. So I tried to hit him with my pipe and he did this badass counter, he ducked down to the floor and got up and hit me in the stomach which stunned me and it looked like he did some kind of elbow. I did it again and backed up a bit and it was a flying knee. I just kept doing it and he knocked me out. My guess is that the pipes were meant to break during the boss fight and Edgar had a move to avoid you being able to just smash his face in when his pipe breaks while you have yours.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Screenracer on April 22, 2014, 02:16:01 PM
Edgar has an unused attack, I read about it but wasn't so sure of it. But I was on one of my old saves that was just after Jimmy gets expelled, I did busting in and it was all normal, I was fighting Edgar but I got distracted and he knocked me out, no problem, but I made the game glitch, I had Edgar out of breath and I beat him up, he ran to the door, I was blocking the door, he headbutted me through the door and I followed him down. There was no cutscene for the boss fight.

He just walked around me with his fighting stance. So I tried to hit him with my pipe and he did this badass counter, he ducked down to the floor and got up and hit me in the stomach which stunned me and it looked like he did some kind of elbow. I did it again and backed up a bit and it was a flying knee. I just kept doing it and he knocked me out. My guess is that the pipes were meant to break during the boss fight and Edgar had a move to avoid you being able to just smash his face in when his pipe breaks while you have yours.

You mean, this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Qa58sBE9jU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Qa58sBE9jU)


Also, this looks like a beta weapon or something.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2yEf1tQcfg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2yEf1tQcfg)
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Sphinx on April 23, 2014, 09:47:49 PM
Yeah, that's the move. That's one badass way of dodging a pipe.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Scum on May 17, 2014, 03:55:54 PM
Apparently the hobo was meant to teach you a few more stuff than you end up with.
Posted in this thread. http://www.bully-board.com/index.php?topic=2273.0 (http://www.bully-board.com/index.php?topic=2273.0)

Hobo Training Missions~n~unlocked.
Look for the hobo behind the old school bus.
Find a transistor.
Take the transistor to the hobo.
That'll do. You ready to train?
Uppercut unlocked
Leg Sweep unlocked
Heavy Kick unlocked
4-Hit Combo unlocked
5-Hit Combo unlocked
Medium Combo 4
Medium Combo 5
Roundhouse Kick unlocked
Overhead Punch unlocked
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Scum on May 17, 2014, 06:15:00 PM
Right now I'd kill for any new info whatsoever.

Especially regarding the unused storyline, with Jimmy being anonymously summoned to the pool where he fights Russell/Hal and Gary doesn't turn on him 'till later.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: eellliioottt123 on June 18, 2014, 03:28:11 PM
Originally "This is your school" was different.

You were supposed to get Bucky's One-Eyed Elf Statue back, possibly instead of Eunice's chocolates. Someone posted earlier that originally Bucky was the kissable Nerd, perhaps he was supposed to be the first kiss in the game instead of Eunice?

Also, Gary originally talked Jimmy through school rules in this mission, and the cutscene where he talks about all the cliques was originally not meant to be a cutscene, but rather happen during gameplay.

In Complete Mayhem, once the clique leaders were defeated, they were originally going to have a small conversation with Jimmy about getting their clique back in order. Also, Gary originally had many more lines he could say over the speaker, 10 in the audio files. Petey was also meant to appear in this mission, in the audio files he has a few lines for it. And speaking of Petey, like Gary he has lines for dodgeball games.

Also, both Complete Mayhem and Final Showdown are listed as being part of Chapter 6. Chapter 5 could have possibly ended after "Showdown at the Plant".

Firecrackers were going to be called Cherry Bombs.

The girls have dialogue recorded for being given a swirlie, implying you could originally grapple them.

Gloria was originally going to be older, well either that or Jimmy was able to kiss the younger girls, as she has dialogue recorded for being given a gift and being kissed. If she is made kissable with mods, she will use these lines.

Everyone has dialogue recorded for being given gifts, implying you could originally give things to anybody. Everyone also has dialogue for tattling, showing that originally more than just Little Kids and Const would do this.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: c00ld0c26 on June 18, 2014, 04:05:37 PM
Also the movie teather mission, where you clear the line for Pinky, has some interesting quotes which may lead to 2 things :

1. Eunice was given flowers in order to kiss her in the beta (so she may of been skinner? or maybe fat but still get flowers...)

2. The mission was actually inside the movie teather, and you propably had to screw the preps there.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: eellliioottt123 on June 18, 2014, 04:10:27 PM
I've noticed that some missions talk about things that never happen in the game. For example, The Rumble. Lola: "Tad fights for me, Gord fights for me."

And there was that beta mission in chapter 3 involving him. Seems he was supposed to have a much bigger role in the chapter.

And also, I looked through a lot of students speech files, and it seems that originally, everyone was able to play Dodgeball, including all clique leaders, the Bullies (who don't have a team in the final game) and non clique students (who also don't have a team in the final game). Even Pedro and Sheldon have lines for winning and losing dodgeball games. The only students who don't are the girls and prefects.

There are a few lines for "Complete Mayhem" featuring a confrontation between Mandy and Zoe, revealing that they were friends at one point. In fact, almost all girls have lines for "Complete Mayhem" (except Angie and Eunice for some reason) suggesting they were originally going to be featured in the mission, rather than being absent. Christy having lines for it also shows that non-clique students were supposed to be part of the mission.

A theory I have not backed up by anything in the files was that the Bullies were originally going to be a complete clique, with Hal and Zoe (once she got back into the school) as the additional two members. Hal because of his "Russell will sit on you" quote. Zoe simply because of the white shirt. This would also mean an additional Greaser to replace Hal.

EDIT: Just looked through Cornelius' speech files and found that originally "Stronghold Assault" was going to be different/longer and the Spud Gun was originally obtained in a different mission.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: The 510 Series on June 29, 2014, 04:49:26 PM
*BUMP*

It would have been awesome had Hal become a Bully and a non-clique student replaced him as a Greaser, or a non-clique student had become a Bully.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: BloodChuckZ on June 29, 2014, 09:55:54 PM
Somehow, I just cant see Hal in a white shirt.   :neen:
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: The 510 Series on June 30, 2014, 03:49:01 PM
Yeah, I think Constantinos would have been better suited with the Bully role, what with him being a cynic and all that.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: iscream4u on July 20, 2014, 07:51:53 AM
you were able to bribe prefects
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: johnny1248 on July 31, 2014, 07:29:38 AM
gord was actually fighting for her because in the mission jealous johnny has been dating with her,i.think i remember in one of the lines that were not in the game is that he has probably taken lola's bra,what i don't understand is that how tad has been fighting for her.also why lola thinks that jimmy is gay ?
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: eellliioottt123 on July 31, 2014, 08:41:07 AM
gord was actually fighting for her because in the mission jealous johnny has been dating with her,i.think i remember in one of the lines that were not in the game is that he has probably taken lola's bra,what i don't understand is that how tad has been fighting for her.also why lola thinks that jimmy is gay ?

There was a deleted mission invovling Lola, Tad, and the Greasers.
Jimmy can be gay if the player chooses him to be, and it's possible that was originally part of the storyling.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: SWEGTA on July 31, 2014, 09:35:53 AM
No, I think that I just assumed Bucky was going to be kissable since I messed around with the HxD and Bucky turned out to be the only kissable nerd.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Mick3Mouse on July 31, 2014, 01:29:44 PM
The game tutorial says that you can pay authority, and bullies.  But you can just pay bullies.  That sucks.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: johnny1248 on August 02, 2014, 01:06:29 PM
another model is that mrs lisburn was going to have originally a bandage in her left eye,also i wish the map was bigger because the exploration would have been more tempting
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Al Arlington on August 30, 2014, 07:24:52 AM
I think I already posted this, not too sure.

But here goes.


If you do the "Escape Bullworth Academy" glitch on Chapter 1 (Only works for Xbox 360) and go to the Carnival, you'll see the carnival is blocked off.


Could it be the carnival was going to be locked until a later chapter OR was Old Bullworth Vale and Bullworth Town going to be open at the start of the game?

I think Bullworth Town/Vale was going to be open but R* decided to close the gates so the player got accustomed to Bullworth Academy first.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: riki2cool on August 30, 2014, 07:29:01 AM
Maybe it was supposed to be locked until you went there on a date with Pinky, but later Rockstar changed it because they didn't want to lock too much of the world away?
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Al Arlington on August 30, 2014, 07:33:35 AM
That makes sense as in every other R* game, areas are locked until you beat a certain mission.


Then again, in Bully, areas are unlocked at the start of a new chapter. 
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Mike8687 on October 16, 2014, 10:33:35 PM
I found lots of icons, character names, objects, and small map areas in the World.img, If you want me to list some things I have found, let me know :) (Ex. F_Douts.agr) (Douts means Dropouts)
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: AlphaTech on October 17, 2014, 09:43:50 AM
Christy may have originally been a bully since she has many bullying quotes and when you add her to the bullies clique she insults people and is very aggressive even without being in a clique.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: eellliioottt123 on October 19, 2014, 02:47:27 PM
Christy may have originally been a bully since she has many bullying quotes and when you add her to the bullies clique she insults people and is very aggressive even without being in a clique.
She's also the brother of one of the bullies (Wade)
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: garyvincent on October 19, 2014, 11:08:23 PM
I saw rockjacket.nif and rockjacket.nft in world.img
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Mike8687 on October 24, 2014, 04:08:14 PM
Oh god  :o I found an icon in the TXD ifreakDetails2.txd What is SC31_bloodtub
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Mike8687 on October 24, 2014, 04:18:37 PM
Also "The Jocks" used to own the building from "The Tenements" the texture below shows the wall from "The Tenements" and it came from Jock_Interior.txd in the World.img of the PS2 bully
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Mike8687 on October 24, 2014, 04:25:26 PM
 :neen: I found the original model textures for pinky, the NAKED model textures, I'm not going to post them cause I am afraid I might get banned for Nudity textures. I Am surprised R* originally decided to do a model of pinky naked anyway... (P.S: Those textures were also from the beta!) UPDATE: God!!! Apparently EVERY MODEL WAS ORIGINALLY NAKED, AND I JUST FOUND GORD'S MODEL!!!! :wacko:
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: BloodChuckZ on October 25, 2014, 05:04:24 AM
Find Lola's, and we'll talk.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: SWEGTA on October 25, 2014, 05:42:16 PM
Find Edna's, and we'll talk.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Mick3Mouse on October 25, 2014, 08:15:00 PM
:neen: I found the original model textures for pinky, the NAKED model textures, I'm not going to post them cause I am afraid I might get banned for Nudity textures. I Am surprised R* originally decided to do a model of pinky naked anyway... (P.S: Those textures were also from the beta!) UPDATE: God!!! Apparently EVERY MODEL WAS ORIGINALLY NAKED, AND I JUST FOUND GORD'S MODEL!!!! :wacko:

Upload it on imgur.  I want to see them.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Al Arlington on October 25, 2014, 08:27:31 PM
I call bullshit.


Rockstar Games would get into serious, serious shit if they made nude models of all the girls. Especially since all the girls are under 18.

Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: BloodChuckZ on October 25, 2014, 11:34:27 PM
Maybe....IF they were modeled after real people.  Which they are not.
They are just characters, cooked up in someone's imagination.

That's just like saying a nude Lisa Simpson would get somebody arrested.
Not a real person, just a made up image.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: 明日香 on October 25, 2014, 11:54:09 PM
I call bullshit.


Rockstar Games would get into serious, serious shit if they made nude models of all the girls. Especially since all the girls are under 18.
But they aren't real people, so that would probably not happen, especially since (if they exist) they aren't used in-game
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: c00ld0c26 on October 26, 2014, 01:21:44 AM
I call bullshit.


Rockstar Games would get into serious, serious shit if they made nude models of all the girls. Especially since all the girls are under 18.
But they aren't real people, so that would probably not happen, especially since (if they exist) they aren't used in-game

Omg...... Jack Thompson would of made a giant party with lawsuit after lawsuit againts R......
Tho thinking about it, Jack Thompson's skills can be compared to a stick.... So I doubt he will ever find those models if they will exist rofl.
R wont do it, they are smart to not do it and get lawsuited lol, Plus its not really Rockstar who decides this sort of thing, Its the 2K dev team, which makes the game with the models, scripts and all, and Rockstar buys the game rights from them and then starts publishing it.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: BloodChuckZ on October 26, 2014, 01:44:15 AM
Well, really....Don't all models start out nude ? 
I mean, when they are drawn, the rough outlines, there is no 'clothes' on them, they are added in later, right ?

They start out like this....
(http://idrawfashion.com/update/wp-content/uploads/how-to-draw-walking-figure-pose-step-10.jpg)

...Wind up like this.....
(http://fashion-design-course.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/How-to-draw-Fashion-sketches.jpg)
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: SWEGTA on October 26, 2014, 11:10:04 AM
You're being sexist, Chuck!
Stop it!!
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Al Arlington on October 26, 2014, 03:21:32 PM
It still technically counts as child porn if they are under 18.

Real or not.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: 明日香 on October 26, 2014, 03:33:51 PM
It still technically counts as child porn if they are under 18.

Real or not.
Child porn laws are to protect children, not fictional characters from video games
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Mick3Mouse on October 26, 2014, 05:00:31 PM
I'm afraid 明日香明日香明日香 is right.


Never thought i see her having right for once xD. 
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: BloodChuckZ on October 26, 2014, 05:06:54 PM
You're being sexist, Chuck!

I wasn't, but I wasn't going to post a naked guy drawing.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: SWEGTA on October 26, 2014, 05:16:10 PM
Chuck, don't play dumb.
We all know you're a Grade A white man in his 40s who oppress all women around the world with your male genitalia and whiteness.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: BloodChuckZ on October 26, 2014, 05:19:27 PM
What is...."Grade A" ?

I'm not popping eggs out of my butt.

(http://i.walmartimages.com/i/p/00/81/39/05/00/0081390500124_500X500.jpg)
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Al Arlington on October 26, 2014, 06:34:13 PM
It still technically counts as child porn if they are under 18.

Real or not.
Child porn laws are to protect children, not fictional characters from video games
Even then, it's still illegal.

I remember hearing about an adult game which was heavily sexualised and banned only because one of the girls said she was 17.

I'll try and find the name of the game. IIRC it was on the PS2.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: 明日香 on October 26, 2014, 07:08:23 PM
It still technically counts as child porn if they are under 18.

Real or not.
Child porn laws are to protect children, not fictional characters from video games
Even then, it's still illegal.

I remember hearing about an adult game which was heavily sexualised and banned only because one of the girls said she was 17.

I'll try and find the name of the game. IIRC it was on the PS2.
That just isn't right (Not the fact, I mean like... wrong in the same way that people say murder is, for example)
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Al Arlington on October 26, 2014, 08:01:07 PM
Subject to opinion I guess.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: 明日香 on October 26, 2014, 08:08:25 PM
Subject to opinion I guess.
What other way is there to see this?
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: SWEGTA on October 26, 2014, 08:15:46 PM
Is Chuck in his 40s?! Is that real? I always thought he was in his 20s.

Chuck is a God. His age can't be defined.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: BloodChuckZ on October 26, 2014, 08:17:37 PM
I'm 101.
That's what it sez on my profile, and I'm stickin' to that.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: iscream4u on December 12, 2014, 07:37:41 PM
The name of the game is The guy game
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: SWEGTA on December 13, 2014, 06:28:36 AM
We know Chuck be chillin' on some pillows with da ladies, sippin' on some champagne (filled with tha gasoline!).
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Al Arlington on December 14, 2014, 07:41:12 PM
The name of the game is The guy game

That;s the one, thanks.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: iscream4u on December 15, 2014, 03:37:42 PM
your welcome
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: SWEGTA on December 15, 2014, 03:46:15 PM
your welcome

What about it? Doesn't everyone have one?
MY DOCTOR SAID IT'S NORMAL!!
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: The 510 Series on December 15, 2014, 04:30:51 PM
He's talking about your welcome mat in front of your door, clearly...
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: SWEGTA on December 15, 2014, 04:42:48 PM
Oh. Well, what's up with it?
Got a problem with my doormat, bro? *flexes tiny muscles*
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: BloodChuckZ on December 16, 2014, 01:16:03 AM
A moderator gets to be everyone's doormat.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: AfterLife on March 09, 2015, 08:11:52 AM
bump

Very interesting topic, it needed a bump.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Owais Qadri on March 09, 2015, 03:27:25 PM
Gary would die in the end r u sure
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: deadpoolXYZ on April 17, 2015, 07:42:20 PM
Johnny was supposed to use his tornado kick (or clear move) in his boss mission but it was disabled for unknown reasons. A lot of people thought that rockstar forgot to remove that move but it was indeed intended to be used.



Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Owais Qadri on April 19, 2015, 11:36:12 AM
I heard Gary was gonna did any proof?
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Enderman on April 21, 2015, 11:35:55 PM
Johnny was supposed to use his tornado kick (or clear move) in his boss mission but it was disabled for unknown reasons. A lot of people thought that rockstar forgot to remove that move but it was indeed intended to be used.
I would think R* used in Boss Mission but they forgot to enabled it
R* is silly and stupid after complete the game they need to check all the game what disable, what enable or any errors before release it
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: deadpoolXYZ on May 06, 2015, 08:48:44 PM
In the last area of "Showdown at the plant" Jimmy was supposed to fall in a traphole full of sludge (acid?) at some point of the fight. Edgar even has unused lines taunting Jimmy while he is being burned.

EDIT: The chemical plant elevator can be used by the player if Jimmy gets inside it during the boss mission. If the elevator goes up, most of the time Jimmy will glitch through the floor.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: DahCobra33 on May 06, 2015, 10:26:56 PM
Deadpool:
About the Tornado Kick thing(I know it's old stuff but still)
I have an obvious reason:
Rockstar:If we put Johnny that Kick,he'll be way too OP...Let's just balance him a bit...
I also believe they took out the kick due that he wouldn't be using his TaeKwonDo Style on final game release...So it'd look very weird he made all those punches(Whose,are normal)and then suddenly deliver a super kick with perfect technique...It'd been akward...

About the Beta Showdown at the Plant:
That about the sludge...Shouldn't Jimmy disintegrate when he touches it? Even if it was kept on the final release...I think they wouldn't put the taunt sounds because,it's not usual to hear a some random guy laughing at your death...

And wait,can you actually get inside the elevator on the final release? If it's so,how?
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: AfterLife on May 07, 2015, 05:03:58 AM
About the Beta Showdown at the Plant:
That about the sludge...Shouldn't Jimmy disintegrate when he touches it? Even if it was kept on the final release...I think they wouldn't put the taunt sounds because,it's not usual to hear a some random guy laughing at your death...
My thoughts exactly. It didn't made any sense, considering Bully was supposed to be 15+, if that made it to the final release, it would be 18+. Another thing, what's the point of the fight if Jimmy falls in the sludge? Jimmy would lose for sure, duh, common sense,I do not think that it is true that Jimmy will fall in the sludge.

Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: deadpoolXYZ on May 07, 2015, 08:20:51 AM
5_Ba.dat:

(http://oi58.tinypic.com/e0omxz.jpg)

The areacode and coordinates match perfectly with the fighting area in the plant. After some testing I noticed that the hole is climbable if you manage to get inside (going through walls and disabling gravity). However it's completely empty and you can go through the walls there.

Btw it was supposed to be a "bad ending" thing... it's not that it was supposed to happen to beat the mission.

About the quotes (00:18 - 00:25):

www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=veL6NHfJhEA#t=18 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=veL6NHfJhEA#t=18)
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: AfterLife on May 07, 2015, 09:18:11 AM
5_Ba.dat:

(http://oi58.tinypic.com/e0omxz.jpg)

The areacode and coordinates match perfectly with the fighting area in the plant. After some testing I noticed that the hole is climbable if you manage to get inside (going through walls and disabling gravity). However it's completely empty and you can go through the walls there.

Btw it was supposed to be a "bad ending" thing... it's not that it was supposed to happen to beat the mission.

About the quotes (00:18 - 00:25):

www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=veL6NHfJhEA#t=18 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=veL6NHfJhEA#t=18)
Oh I see... Thanks for explaining.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: deadpoolXYZ on May 07, 2015, 01:58:06 PM
And wait,can you actually get inside the elevator on the final release? If it's so,how?

You can't by normal means, you have to go through walls.

PedSetActionNode(gPlayer, "/Global/2_B/DrbyVault/PlayAnim","Act/Conv/2_B.act")

EDIT: The round metal platform was added later.

(http://oi60.tinypic.com/1zfixwk.jpg)
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: DahCobra33 on May 08, 2015, 01:50:35 PM
So...If you touch the sludge in the final release(The game all of us play) we still get burned?
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Owais Qadri on May 08, 2015, 04:12:01 PM
They removed naked picture thing due to age limits
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: AfterLife on May 15, 2015, 03:48:19 AM
So is or possible to touch the sludge in the final release?
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: deadpoolXYZ on May 15, 2015, 05:22:14 AM
There is CH_Sludge.nif, CH_Sludge01.nif and CH_Sludge02.nif in the game files but they all look the same. They don't hurt you and you can't even swim on them.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: ShadowRageEX on May 23, 2015, 06:09:12 AM
When I was seeing the comic strip of bully I noticed that there was lot's of bully beta character's. So I just got a question that the other character's that made their appearance are beta character's to? Or not? Anyway you guy's must have seen Crabblesnitch in the bully comic strip It might be the beta version of him! And yes when I was playing Final Showdown mission the cutscene where you bring Gary in the office and Crabblesnitch say that '' your'e a diamond boy a diamond'' If you focus on the background you can see the comic strip Crabblesnitch head statue! Well I don't know how to post a screenshot bcz I tried to take a screenshot and It didn't work But I thought It might be beta related So I thought it will be worth posting here.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: ShadowRageEX on May 23, 2015, 06:16:26 AM
And how did Milker Barba find all these johnny and melvin and jimmy beta move? And who was the guy wearing a red hoody on the beta russel punk video?
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Owais Qadri on May 23, 2015, 10:48:03 AM
I wish all the beta things were in bully
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: DahCobra33 on May 23, 2015, 11:46:57 AM
And how did Milker Barba find all these johnny and melvin and jimmy beta move? And who was the guy wearing a red hoody on the beta russel punk video?
Actually,it's from another guy whose name I don't remember...MilkerBarba added his name on the video,but those moves weren't created by him...If I remember the guy's name,I'll send it to you
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: deadpoolXYZ on May 23, 2015, 11:56:30 AM
And how did Milker Barba find all these johnny and melvin and jimmy beta move? And who was the guy wearing a red hoody on the beta russel punk video?
Actually,it's from another guy whose name I don't remember...MilkerBarba added his name on the video,but those moves weren't created by him...If I remember the guy's name,I'll send it to you

Sota Yuyama
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: DahCobra33 on May 23, 2015, 11:58:10 AM
There,second time you tell me so...Wait,third  :biggrin:
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: ShadowRageEX on May 24, 2015, 07:36:49 AM
Well somebody told me about that Crabblesnitch was the real villain but that was change maybe we was supposed to confront him. Is this true and yeah I heard that Madman has some contacts from R*. Is it possible he can request some beta file's from his contact's... I know it's a crappy question... But still worth to ask and sorry my grammer sucks!
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: ShadowRageEX on May 24, 2015, 07:42:49 AM
Anyway I also heard that we was suppose to download song's in the music store that was removed bcz PS2 doesn't have an internet so they removed this feature from both from Bully and Scholarship Edition... I never see someone talk about the beta school... It will be good if we talk about that what was the school suppose to look like in beta!
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: DahCobra33 on May 24, 2015, 01:07:16 PM
If you watch SWEGTA's videos you may've seen he made a video about the music thing:
Nate,an unused ped that is on the game files(I believe) was meant to sell you music according to the game sound files,but this was meant to be for the XBox Classic Canis Canem version,whose was never released.
Well,from what I read about the Beta School(or at least what I remember) is:
-Boys Dorm was meant to have 2 floors rather than just one,like Girls Dorm(Which makes more sense as long as there are much more boy students than girls),it even had a bathroom.
-There was an (it's still there but now is out of order) Elevator that connected the School's Roof and the Basement(Specifically the broken elevator found in The Hole),actually,when you start the mission"Russell in the Hole"(not "Help Gary" you may notice that the Clique Leaders spawn near the Elevator,making a reference they were meant to go and watch the fight by it=
-It was planned that the classrooms were gonna be enterable,but that idea was scrapped due to PS2 capabilities.
-(this one I don't remember if it's true but I'll say it anyways) You were able to get inside Principal's office rather than just the Reception (The place is enterable by modding,like the classrooms,but you'll find some collision errors and many bugs like Crabblesnitch's desk)
-I think the Swimming Pool was at some point refilled(although I'm not sure)
-Also,(this is more about the map in general) there were some Subterranean ducts where you could freely go around(again,PS2 limits)
-Mr.Luntz(Janitor),was mean't to spawn on the Basement

Well,I remembered a few of them,then,I had to watch SWEGTA's video to refresh myself a bit...Here
Bully BETA : The Map [EPISODE 2] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQkEM3TrR_U#)
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: ShadowRageEX on May 25, 2015, 05:52:03 AM
 ;D Thanks for providing me some good information I said it before and I will say it again that you can see BETA CRABBLESNTICH HEAD STATUE in his office. Well if you can go there through modding you will see!
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: fire annihilation on May 25, 2015, 08:41:26 AM
The school building was meant to have 3 floors watch the first bully trailer and pause at around 8 seconds you will see it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88KNf0MtU14 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88KNf0MtU14)
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: deadpoolXYZ on May 25, 2015, 11:44:42 AM
The school building was meant to have 3 floors watch the first bully trailer and pause at around 8 seconds you will see it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88KNf0MtU14 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88KNf0MtU14)

I never knew gord also wore the aquaberry sweater like Tad in the beta. Btw Derby has a red scarf (or tie?) under his shirt.

EDIT: Jimmy's skateboard has a lightning design underneath
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: fire annihilation on May 25, 2015, 02:09:47 PM
Also on the first bully trailer watch at 28 seconds you can see Pedro walking in the boys dorm confirming him being there. Plus at 56 seconds (the pinky scene) you can see more people there then there was before in the background of the scene and they have a different outfits.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: fire annihilation on May 25, 2015, 06:50:05 PM
The school building was meant to have 3 floors watch the first bully trailer and pause at around 8 seconds you will see it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88KNf0MtU14 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88KNf0MtU14)

I never knew gord also wore the aquaberry sweater like Tad in the beta. Btw Derby has a red scarf (or tie?) under his shirt.

EDIT: Jimmy's skateboard has a lightning design underneath
The school had a very old feel to it in the beta with batons and the red uniforms
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: ShadowRageEX on May 26, 2015, 05:52:36 AM
The school building was meant to have 3 floors watch the first bully trailer and pause at around 8 seconds you will see it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88KNf0MtU14 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88KNf0MtU14)

I never knew gord also wore the aquaberry sweater like Tad in the beta. Btw Derby has a red scarf (or tie?) under his shirt.

EDIT: Jimmy's skateboard has a lightning design underneath
Well in the mission Complete Mayhem when you fight derby you can see that he is wearing a blue scarf and he had the same scarf under his aquaberry uniform but it was red you can clearly see it is the same scarf if you focus on the pic. I don't know why it was removed. And yeah the school had 3 floors and you can enter classes.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: ShadowRageEX on May 26, 2015, 06:05:09 AM
In the trailer christy has a bullworth logo on her uniform.... Never noticed a logo on her uniform. And was the ''Setup'' mission was going to be on the school? Look's like every character had a bullworth logo on their uniform. The school look's different from outside...

EDIT : At 1:00 on the trailer if you look behind the crabblesnitch you can see a hawk and down the hawk you can see beta crabblesnitch head statue!
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: fire annihilation on May 26, 2015, 09:42:25 AM
In the trailer christy has a bullworth logo on her uniform.... Never noticed a logo on her uniform. And was the ''Setup'' mission was going to be on the school? Look's like every character had a bullworth logo on their uniform. The school look's different from outside...

EDIT : At 1:00 on the trailer if you look behind the crabblesnitch you can see a hawk and down the hawk you can see beta crabblesnitch head statue!
At 16 seconds when jimmy is shooting the window of the bus you can see the background looked very different.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: ShadowRageEX on May 26, 2015, 12:09:47 PM
Oh yeah the background it's different there is a wall just noticed yet lol ok well to make a beta bully we have to gather all the beta information then make them step by step bcz we are here trying to figure out all the differences between the beta bully and the original bully instead of making a mod... So what do you guy's think? I mean that the mod that walter made only consist of beta model's that were not completely beta-ish... Look's like we need a proper team!
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: fire annihilation on May 26, 2015, 04:47:40 PM
Bully beta mod could possibly be fully done to an accurate degree but a lot of time is needed to be devoted.
To create it we could have a few people go through all the quotes ps2 and pc versions to gather all information.
We could have a person go through the trailers and do a deep analysis of stuff not available (Need a guy with extreme knowledge of bully who knows the ins and outs)
Then we could use tailors art for bully.
Screenshots would need to be fully checked.
and obviously madman got a lot of info already. oh yeah we will need people to do full file checks for pc and ps2.
This will not be easy and you will need a lot of people with a lot of time plus communication is also key.
You will need people very good at textures and 3d modeling. I am just a newb though so the pros would have to do it.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: ShadowRageEX on May 27, 2015, 06:20:33 AM
Bully beta mod could possibly be fully done to an accurate degree but a lot of time is needed to be devoted.
To create it we could have a few people go through all the quotes ps2 and pc versions to gather all information.
We could have a person go through the trailers and do a deep analysis of stuff not available (Need a guy with extreme knowledge of bully who knows the ins and outs)
Then we could use tailors art for bully.
Screenshots would need to be fully checked.
and obviously madman got a lot of info already. oh yeah we will need people to do full file checks for pc and ps2.
This will not be easy and you will need a lot of people with a lot of time plus communication is also key.
You will need people very good at textures and 3d modeling. I am just a newb though so the pros would have to do it.
I will tell you about it! Well lot's of people's have already rigged all of the sound file's so I think the only think there is that we listen to the sound file's and figure them out. SWEGTA is the guy with deep knowledge and I think he can do deep trailer analysis. What do you mean by tailor arts? Screenshot's will be fully checked by some of us the guy's that don't know how to mod and I will give you guy's a hand at this. Yep MadMan have enough info to help us in this mod! If we can rig ps2 file's to bully se then half of the mod will be done... For communication I think if it's too hard to communicate why not make a new topic and chat there? I think on little re-texturing like derby scarf and tad and gord aquaberry outfit we can use walter since he is such an awesome retexturer and for 3d modeling... If we can rig gta vc file's to bully then I will convince the modder's from gtaforums.com since lot's of people ther know how to do 3d modeling... If we can revive the mod again it will be good I am already trying to convince the modder's so please guy's revive the mod please! Lot of us need's a beta bully!
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: AfterLife on May 27, 2015, 06:26:31 AM
We cant get close to making a mod like bully beta.

And you guys talked as if it all sounded so easy.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: ShadowRageEX on May 27, 2015, 07:23:35 AM
I didn't said it was easy friend nor I am saying that make it now I am just giving suggestion's and talking about the people's who know's modding.... anyway if we try to make a beta mod we can bully-board created bully mp that was so hard despite the fact that it is still in developement... But anyway I will leave it to the professionals.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: ShadowRageEX on May 27, 2015, 07:27:41 AM
Oh yeah now I know what he meant by tailor's art well gtaforums.com modders can make a model from scratch from tailor's art through 3d modeling  :)  :laugh:  :jajaja:
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: AfterLife on May 27, 2015, 08:36:17 AM
I didn't said it was easy friend nor I am saying that make it now I am just giving suggestion's and talking about the people's who know's modding.... anyway if we try to make a beta mod we can bully-board created bully mp that was so hard despite the fact that it is still in developement... But anyway I will leave it to the professionals.
I don't  know why people get mad at me for no apparent reason. I was just posting my opinion.
I'm saying a fact, there's no way we can re-create bully beta.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Owais Qadri on May 27, 2015, 08:41:01 AM
@afterlife not unless we contact rockstar xd!!
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: fire annihilation on May 27, 2015, 08:57:14 AM
We cant get close to making a mod like bully beta.

And you guys talked as if it all sounded so easy.
It is possible if we hack rockstar games like the guy did for half life 2. Lol  8). Though we would be screwed by then.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: ShadowRageEX on May 27, 2015, 03:55:02 PM
I didn't said it was easy friend nor I am saying that make it now I am just giving suggestion's and talking about the people's who know's modding.... anyway if we try to make a beta mod we can bully-board created bully mp that was so hard despite the fact that it is still in developement... But anyway I will leave it to the professionals.
I don't  know why people get mad at me for no apparent reason. I was just posting my opinion.
I'm saying a fact, there's no way we can re-create bully beta.
I am not getting mad at you BUDDY :D .... I am just saying that if we all try we can create mod well I just want to ask you why are you saying that we can't create a beta bully? what's the reason?  :blink: anyway I am not getting mad at you... Let's hope modder's of this community start's the beta mod.... and My GRAMMAR SUCKS!!!!  :ajajaxh5:
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: AfterLife on June 02, 2015, 08:40:29 PM
I didn't said it was easy friend nor I am saying that make it now I am just giving suggestion's and talking about the people's who know's modding.... anyway if we try to make a beta mod we can bully-board created bully mp that was so hard despite the fact that it is still in developement... But anyway I will leave it to the professionals.
I don't  know why people get mad at me for no apparent reason. I was just posting my opinion.
I'm saying a fact, there's no way we can re-create bully beta.
I am not getting mad at you BUDDY :D .... I am just saying that if we all try we can create mod well I just want to ask you why are you saying that we can't create a beta bully? what's the reason?  :blink: anyway I am not getting mad at you... Let's hope modder's of this community start's the beta mod.... and My GRAMMAR SUCKS!!!!  :ajajaxh5:
There are no modders left here that are even willing to make a mod. I think DeadPool is the only one left.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: DahCobra33 on June 02, 2015, 09:16:57 PM
That doesen't means it's not possible.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: AfterLife on June 03, 2015, 06:24:27 AM
That doesen't means it's not possible.
Bully and GTA is different. Trust me, I've been a gta modder before. In Bully, we are still trying so hard to get the things that are already IN the game, whereas in gta we could already add things. Therefore, you cannot compare bully with gta.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: DahCobra33 on June 03, 2015, 09:46:52 PM
I never compared it...I just said it ain't impossible...
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: fire annihilation on June 04, 2015, 10:44:35 AM
Very interesting look at the background and shops.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: DahCobra33 on June 05, 2015, 09:28:38 AM
Look like a more decorated Pier,and the officer look bulkier...
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: AfterLife on June 05, 2015, 09:54:31 AM
Very interesting look at the background and shops.
Nice find.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: DahCobra33 on June 05, 2015, 09:58:58 AM
It's actually great to know that even almost 10 years later we can still find some interesting stuff about Bully.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: fire annihilation on June 07, 2015, 01:50:14 PM
It's actually great to know that even almost 10 years later we can still find some interesting stuff about Bully.
Yeah plus the beach looked extremely different found this on the official bully website :).
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: fire annihilation on June 07, 2015, 01:59:42 PM
Even more interesting jimmy could do some more skills then the simple kick animation in bully. Maybe he could do keep ups in free room or something.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Owais Qadri on June 07, 2015, 02:58:36 PM
Bully is the greatest game ever made.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: fire annihilation on June 07, 2015, 04:54:29 PM
Very interesting look at the background and shops.
Nice find.
Holy shit I just noticed the police was holding a batton. How come I  not even notice and thanks man.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: DahCobra33 on June 07, 2015, 08:11:30 PM
Nice eye on that
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Owais Qadri on June 08, 2015, 04:21:20 PM
Some of the shops we were not allowed into.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Owais Qadri on June 09, 2015, 04:36:02 AM
I said we were not allowed to enter it
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: ShadowRageEX on June 09, 2015, 05:48:10 AM
So I was standing near the school trying out the SWEGGY'S ENB and guess what? HOLY SHERLOCKS!!!!! I saw that the boy's dorm was looking different from far so I take out my camera and zoom on the dorm and there was Window's on the building and Window's on the roof! It mean's you can actually see beta boy's dorm from far! The second floor appear's when your'e far 8)
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: ShadowRageEX on June 09, 2015, 05:50:03 AM
And yes you can actually see the school's third floor when your'e in the hidden interior's universe! It's solid! I don't know how to do this glitch... :neen:
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: AfterLife on June 09, 2015, 05:51:47 AM
Nice find dude.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Owais Qadri on June 09, 2015, 06:14:09 AM
i really wish they let us go to the school roof.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: AfterLife on June 09, 2015, 08:33:27 AM
i really wish they let us go to the school roof.
Same here. Why do they not allow us? They only opened it in the final missions!
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Owais Qadri on June 09, 2015, 08:40:19 AM
i think its because its dangerous/banned in real life. they wanted it to be 16
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: DahCobra33 on June 09, 2015, 09:03:04 AM
I think it was because it's a dead end,and you can see on Final Showdown that is under construction.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: AfterLife on June 09, 2015, 09:03:57 AM
i think its because its dangerous/banned in real life. they wanted it to be 16
Then why are they showing it in the final mission? Jimmy could have easily killed Gary when he tackled him.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: BloodChuckZ on June 09, 2015, 10:23:32 AM
Maybe to dodge the large Bells on the roof ?
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: AfterLife on June 09, 2015, 10:46:56 AM
Maybe to dodge the large Bells on the roof ?
The large bells that had fallen on Jimmy on the final mission could have got him severely injured.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: ShadowRageEX on June 09, 2015, 11:44:02 AM
Nice find dude.
Me? If it's me! THANKS!!!!!!!!!! YOU ARE THE FIRST PERSON WHO SAID THAT TO ME!!!!!
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: ShadowRageEX on June 09, 2015, 11:51:55 AM
i think its because its dangerous/banned in real life. they wanted it to be 16
Then why are they showing it in the final mission? Jimmy could have easily killed Gary when he tackled him.
I don't know what was Rockstar smoking out there I mean they first made Crabblesnitch the main villain then they made Gary the main villain and Gary was suppose to die and it was change again! Punk's where evolve into TOWNIES and BULLIES Russel was the punk's leader then the townie's leader then the bullies leader (WTF?) Bullie's orignally had vest's that was removed! And the original concept was that Jimmy was the ANTAGONISTIC PROTAGONIST and Jimmy was a BULLY which was later changed.... I wonder if Jimmy was suppose to be bully (not the clique) then what was the ending suppose to be? I want to tell more but I am afraid MY ENGLISH SUCKS!!!
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: ShadowRageEX on June 09, 2015, 12:01:26 PM
According to the COMIC STRIPS, Tyler's Art, Old Screenshot's, BETA Leftover.... Bullworth Academy was CREEPY and it was full of BULLIES.... And I don't know if it's true :hmm: but I heard that Bully was in development when the company that was creating BULLY sold their company to ROCKSTAR so they created the whole game.... You can say SCRATCH! It's a rumor that I heard.... Not sure if it's true! ???
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Owais Qadri on June 09, 2015, 01:56:49 PM
It's not true don't believe these stupid rumours.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: DahCobra33 on June 09, 2015, 02:55:32 PM
They say the models were more cartoonish,but I find them a very creepy,specially Nurse McRae,looked like an alien.
And no,Rockstar made this game completely.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Owais Qadri on June 09, 2015, 03:41:54 PM
Apparently, bethesda helped them.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: fire annihilation on June 09, 2015, 06:29:25 PM
So I was standing near the school trying out the SWEGGY'S ENB and guess what? HOLY SHERLOCKS!!!!! I saw that the boy's dorm was looking different from far so I take out my camera and zoom on the dorm and there was Window's on the building and Window's on the roof! It mean's you can actually see beta boy's dorm from far! The second floor appear's when your'e far 8)
videos or screen caps would be awesome. Goof work   :)
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: fire annihilation on June 09, 2015, 06:40:45 PM
Ok here is a screen of a punk member in bully look at the cart behind jimmy's.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: fire annihilation on June 09, 2015, 06:43:00 PM
This screen differently tells us jimmy could play more sports.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: BloodChuckZ on June 09, 2015, 07:09:08 PM
HA, falling off the roof through a Skylight should have gotten both him & Gary killed.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: ShadowRageEX on June 10, 2015, 04:48:56 AM
So I was standing near the school trying out the SWEGGY'S ENB and guess what? HOLY SHERLOCKS!!!!! I saw that the boy's dorm was looking different from far so I take out my camera and zoom on the dorm and there was Window's on the building and Window's on the roof! It mean's you can actually see beta boy's dorm from far! The second floor appear's when your'e far 8)
videos or screen caps would be awesome. Goof work   :)
That's my problem I mean that I am noob enough that I don't know how to take a screenshot!
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: ShadowRageEX on June 10, 2015, 04:50:26 AM
Ok here is a screen of a punk member in bully look at the cart behind jimmy's.
It's not a Punk it's Omar and behind him is Zoe..... It's possible to create BETA CHARACTER'S through 3D Modeling
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: ShadowRageEX on June 10, 2015, 04:52:48 AM
According to the old screenshot's and comic strip's the jock's were healthier (not all of them).... It's strange that the prefect Seth Kolbe is simlialr to the beta version of Bob it's noticable though :ajajaxh5:
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: ShadowRageEX on June 10, 2015, 04:54:02 AM
HA, falling off the roof through a Skylight should have gotten both him & Gary killed.
Well it will be good if Jimmy died with Gary and after that we can play as a new character since Jimmy was originally a BULLY!
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: ShadowRageEX on June 10, 2015, 04:59:03 AM
They say the models were more cartoonish,but I find them a very creepy,specially Nurse McRae,looked like an alien.
And no,Rockstar made this game completely.
You will not believe but I love the BETA CHARACTER'S well they was creepy but man they was cartoonish and I like cartoonish character's and they was CREEPY YEAH (Evil Smile) but anyway I like how the game was supposed to be but that BULLY contain's mature stuff!Anyway my favourite beta character's was Mole, Sid and Johnny Vincent bcz he was like Old Film's protogonist!
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: ShadowRageEX on June 10, 2015, 05:00:09 AM
And in the comic strip's there was a greaser that wore glasses I think it was norton beta version.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: AfterLife on June 10, 2015, 05:45:18 AM
Wow, 6 posts at the sane time. Good job.

Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: ShadowRageEX on June 10, 2015, 09:58:05 AM
Wow, 6 posts at the sane time. Good job
Lol and SORRY bcz I gave you some wrong information! Jimmy was not an antagonistic protogonist! BUT he was a player controlled antagonist! It mean's that in the beta the real antagonist was JIMMY HOPKINS!!!!!!!
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: ShadowRageEX on June 10, 2015, 10:15:55 AM
I was watching this video when I noticed that melvin after using his slap and shoulder barge combo he is using his beta fighting style stance for a short time just like norton and johnny stance! It mean's that melvin's beta stance is still in game! See this Two Hit Combo! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igtGfgvyLQg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igtGfgvyLQg)
EDIT : I was trying this using NOT ANOTHER SELECTOR and it's 100% true that Fatty and Melvin both are using this stance for a short time after using that combo. And how did he get MOLE model?
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: ShadowRageEX on June 10, 2015, 12:16:33 PM
Very interesting look at the background and shops.
Is that Bif in the background with that piece of shit Gord? Interestingly Bif is wearing Blue pants. And where are you finding these give me the link! And that building in the background has something like ease written on it while on the in-game building has easy drugs written on it!
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: fire annihilation on June 10, 2015, 04:21:21 PM
Very interesting look at the background and shops.
Is that Bif in the background with that piece of shit Gord? Interestingly Bif is wearing Blue pants. And where are you finding these give me the link! And that building in the background has something like ease written on it while on the in-game building has easy drugs written on it!
found this on the official bully website went on bullworth prospectures downloaded it.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: DahCobra33 on June 12, 2015, 02:23:13 PM
Not to be a dick but...
Ok here is a screen of a punk member in bully look at the cart behind jimmy's.
Those aren't Punks,Punks were scrapped and they don't look like that...By the other hand,those are the Townies/Dropouts,who are in the game.
This screen differently tells us jimmy could play more sports.
Ummm,I've done that stuff a bunch of times...Stealing a ball and getting chased by Jocks...Just think,since when someone plays a Football match with the School Uniform?
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Owais Qadri on June 12, 2015, 03:59:29 PM
Jimmy combos are the best.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: fire annihilation on June 12, 2015, 05:08:27 PM
Not to be a dick but...
Ok here is a screen of a punk member in bully look at the cart behind jimmy's.
Those aren't Punks,Punks were scrapped and they don't look like that...By the other hand,those are the Townies/Dropouts,who are in the game.
This screen differently tells us jimmy could play more sports.
Ummm,I've done that stuff a bunch of times...Stealing a ball and getting chased by Jocks...Just think,since when someone plays a Football match with the School Uniform?
Actually I found a site which played a preview of bully and mentioned rugby. here http://www.cheatcc.com/psx2/rev/bullyreview.html (http://www.cheatcc.com/psx2/rev/bullyreview.html) plus the pictures back this up I may be wrong.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Owais Qadri on June 12, 2015, 05:09:59 PM
There should have been more.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: DahCobra33 on June 12, 2015, 11:38:04 PM
Not to be a dick but...
Ok here is a screen of a punk member in bully look at the cart behind jimmy's.
Those aren't Punks,Punks were scrapped and they don't look like that...By the other hand,those are the Townies/Dropouts,who are in the game.
This screen differently tells us jimmy could play more sports.
Ummm,I've done that stuff a bunch of times...Stealing a ball and getting chased by Jocks...Just think,since when someone plays a Football match with the School Uniform?
Actually I found a site which played a preview of bully and mentioned rugby. here http://www.cheatcc.com/psx2/rev/bullyreview.html (http://www.cheatcc.com/psx2/rev/bullyreview.html) plus the pictures back this up I may be wrong.
Maybe it was,but that picture ain't proof since he isn't wearing Rugby/Football outfit,and it's not Rugby,that's a Football.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: fire annihilation on July 15, 2015, 11:51:00 PM
The comic book shop seems out of place it sells weapons when it is clearly a comic shop. Possibly you could buy comics from the beta.
Title: Re: What Was In Beta Bully???
Post by: Jimmy Hopkins is kewl on August 12, 2020, 06:38:34 PM
Well hello! I just signed up for this website... Everyone probably knows this already but dr.crabblesnitch was originally supposed to not have a name and just be called principal and Dr.crabblesnitch was also supposed to be the main antagonist though this was very very early in development, when bully had more of a cartoony look.. with that walk that most ppl would know if you watched thenathann's video on the whole history of bully's development... I recommend that video for any beta content you would like to know about! :) Have a great day everyone!