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Title: I am very sad and in a bad mood. Need to tell you something.
Post by: UltimateGamer9 on September 25, 2015, 11:22:10 PM
AfterLife is at it again. He posted a video about "UltimateGamer9's Mod". But that's his mod. He used his mod to accuse me. I think he could be right. He said "A retard that steals other people's ideas and codes. He said he's the best modder. Then he said"DaBOSS54320 released a tutorial, all you did was copy and paste tutorial then edit a few lines to yours so called "mod". I'm very sorry I can't release anymore mods. I can't release Local Multiplayer Mod again  :'(. I think I'm gonna have to stop releasing mods again. He could be right this mod was supposed to be The Dream Is Dead's mod. That's all I want to say. Have fun with Local Multiplayer Mod v2.5.
Title: Re: I am very sad and in a bad mood. Need to tell you something.
Post by: UltimateGamer9 on September 26, 2015, 12:33:07 AM
So everyone. I just cancelled the mod. I'm very sorry. Even for myself. So hopefully this will make him happy.
Title: Re: I am very sad and in a bad mood. Need to tell you something.
Post by: nicefunfungirl on September 26, 2015, 12:47:01 AM
Welp,I've officially lost my shit after this.

I've been waiting since hmm? The 7th maybe for the v3 mod?
Finally realize i can become a beta tester somewhere in the duration
Try to beta test but turns out after a whole bunch of fucking grief,the script just needed to either be put inside code or be fucking put on pastebin (check the last message)
and then after all my fucking wait for a mod that was FINALLY going complete my dream involving a bully MP,Local aside from the Bully Multiplayer mod,AND THEN SOME RANDOM FUCKTARD HAS TO SAY SOME SHIT WHICH RUINS MY FUCKING DREAM. GOD DAMN DREAM CRUSHER! I REAAAALLY COULDN'T GIVE A FUCK WHO MADE IT,I JUST WISH IT WAS DONE,AND NOT BE SECRETLY DONE,BE PRIVATE,PUBLICLY SO I CAN ENJOY IT TOO! I've been keeping THE HIGHEST of hopes eventually i'dve tried this mods beta/Full mod when it was done,BUT FUCKING LOOK! I SWEAR! I JUST WANT ONE MOD,THAT WAS BEING DONE,BUT ALL BECAUSE OF SOMEONE WHO SAYS SOME FUCKING SHIT ABOUT SOMEONE BEING SELF-CENTERED,AND I NEVER SAW ANYTHING SAID ABOUT HIM BEING "THE BEST MODDER"! AND HOW IN THE HELL CAN SOMEONE COPY AND PASTE A TUTORIAL AND EDIT LINES TO MAKE A MOD,THE FUCK?! I SWEAR I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS BULLSHIT
Title: Re: I am very sad and in a bad mood. Need to tell you something.
Post by: UltimateGamer9 on September 26, 2015, 01:11:08 AM
You don't understand. AfterLife said I copied DaBOSS54320's tutorial then edit a few things. To make it different. I'm very sorry I had to cancel the mod.
Title: Re: I am very sad and in a bad mood. Need to tell you something.
Post by: UltimateGamer9 on September 26, 2015, 01:19:11 AM
And AfterLife is much more superior. While I took everything here. Yes, I am a retard that takes ideas :'(. So I'm leaving B-B tomorrow in my time zone. Anything to say before I leave?
Title: Re: I am very sad and in a bad mood. Need to tell you something.
Post by: MadmaN on September 26, 2015, 01:23:24 AM
I don't know. But, enough is enough!

@ UltimateGamer9.......

Ok.

Time for me to be blunt and to the point.........

Why in the world are YOU even paying attention to the crap that AfterLife is even saying? All he is doing is being a bully. Plain and simple. And you are being the victim by allowing him to get to you.

I have been watching you very very carefully since you came here to BB, and personally, I think you have been doing your best by actually trying to learn something and just having some fun releasing your own version(s) of whatever mod that you feel like releasing.

YOU are NOT a retard, leech, thief or anything else. YOU are a modder who is a member of the Bully Modding Community and one of the few that seems to actually get the whole point behind modding in general.

It is NOT about the fame or glory or any of that nonsense. Modding is about having fun and making friends....maybe even learning something new in the process. It is also NOT about who is better then whom.

Think of it from my perspective if you will.....When I came here, I was a complete unknown to everyone here. There was NO modding community at that point and mods were just a theoretical thing being discussed by the members here along with a bare handful of hex edit mods being traded in secret on youtube. I took charge since I seen a community where I could help out and light the way for everyone to hopefully follow. I introduced everyone to the joys of lua modding after my friend Fred Tetra was nice enough to share what he had managed to decompile even if the scripts were largely incomplete. He never asked for anything in return and I have not either. I never asked for the level of fame that I apparently have gotten, but being in the position I am in....it kinda comes with the job so...I got used to that and moved on with trying to help people out.

You may want to think about something here m8. If AfterLife is bullying you online.....this is called cyberbullying btw....and if this is going on via youtube....then the simple solution will be to just totally avoid looking at ANY video he makes.....NOT pay any attention to anyone else trying to get YOU to pay attention to HIM.

You can also just leave youtube and make a channel on twitch and give yourself a fresh start there. Youtube is full of mostly trolls anyways. I never pay attention to the comments and I really don't care one bit about anything someone says about this or that I have done.

Take it from me man....I have been 'around the block' way more times then I care to count, but I still keep on pushing ahead. Want to know why I do this? It is because I have a tight circle of friends that lend their support to me whenever I need it and I do the same back to them when I can. Many here that communicate with me daily can back me up on this one. I don't care one bit about anything another person has to say about me. I know the quality of my work and I am happy with where it is at. If someone doesn't like it....oh well. Their loss...not mine... If they want to accuse me of stealing this or that...then fine....it is their OPINION...but unless they can back those accusations up with hard facts that can be proven over and over....then all those are...are just opinions that don't hurt me at all. You may want to try and think the same.

Doing a mod from a tutorial does not make anyone a thief. All you are doing is just trying something out to get the feel for it...and putting YOUR own spin on what has already been done. Hell, I do things like that all the time. I take something that has been done before, do my own version of it and if it is good enough to share with people, then I release it.

DaBOSS releases his work as opensource. This means that anyone can take anything he has released and do whatever they like with it. Changing a few lines from something on a tutorial and releasing it is still modding. It is NOT theft. AfterLife is just blowing smoke at you and messing with your head.

People like AfterLife glorify in hurting other people just because they are miserable themselves. I should know, I was a bully myself once way way back when I was in 3rd grade .... so I have a somewhat unique perspective on why bullies do what they do. I was miserable and it felt damn good back then to make other people miserable.....so I could feel better about myself. That was before I had a very very serious change in heart about that and vowed to be the bully's bully.

I ask you to reconsider and release mods in order to please YOU. What everyone else thinks about YOUR mods is irrelevant because as long as YOU are happy with YOUR work...then in the end....that is all that matters.

Sorry for this long assed reply to your topic and I know most people skim the majority of what I write due to being too lazy to actually read, but if you need someone to simply talk to in private about all of this, fire a pm off to me and we can chat on steam and I can explain things a little better and even tutor you with your mods. I do think you are on the fast track to being a good modder and I really don't like to see someone just up and quit when the going gets tough.

I NEVER quit. No matter what. This is something that a LOT of people here know me the most for. 



P.S.

And AfterLife is much more superior. While I took everything here. Yes, I am a retard that takes ideas :'( . So I'm leaving B-B tomorrow in my time zone. Anything to say before I leave?

If AfterLife is so much superior, then why can't he return here? You are more superior to him because you have the balls to try something you never did before.

As I said above, I can tutor you with lua if there are some things you want to learn. I have NO problem with this. I have taught quite a few of the modders here how to code with lua and I can certainly teach you some new tricks as well.

Trust me man...Do NOT just give up and quit like this. You have a community here that WILL support you. I know I will no matter what and...no...this has nothing to do with my admin position here....but just because I was once like you too. I started in game modding way back in 1991 after the release of Doom 1 for dos. I also had people trying to blow smoke up my ass about this or that being crap...or this or that being stolen from xx person or xx mod...whatever.

Everyone HAS to start somewhere. You can't just get up one day and smack yourself on the head and say: "Well DUH! I will create the biggest and most awesome mod to trump all others!" It just simply doesn't work that way. It just takes a bit of time in order to find your groove with modding. This is the same for anything you try to do either for the first time or something you try to do over and over in order to get better at it. There will always be people that try to bring you down and if you allow yourself to go down and give up...then that person gets exactly what they want.

Besides, why be afraid of AfterLife? He can't do a thing to you anyways. All he is is just a wannabe that thinks modding is all about the whole glory thing. I never seen it as glory...and I have done game modding SINCE 1991. That is 24 years I have been doing this. Been doing Photoshop for the exact same amount of time too and I have not stopped yet. Heh.
Title: Re: I am very sad and in a bad mood. Need to tell you something.
Post by: UltimateGamer9 on September 26, 2015, 01:37:07 AM
Ok.... really big post. But I don't have Steam. I have Facebook and Youtube only. But why is AfterLife saying everything in opposite? Like "leecher/leeching" whatever that is. But what is up with him?
Title: Re: I am very sad and in a bad mood. Need to tell you something.
Post by: MadmaN on September 26, 2015, 02:02:57 AM
Ok.... really big post. But I don't have Steam. I have Facebook and Youtube only. But why is AfterLife saying everything in opposite? Like "leecher/leeching" whatever that is. But what is up with him?

I do apologise for the length of the post...that is also something else I am kinda well known for.

To put this in another perspective for you. AfterLife seems to think he is the sole authority over the modding community. He is NOT.

If anyone is the sole authority over the modding community as it is...that would technically be me since I am the one that pretty much restarted the community in the direction it has gone so far. AfterLife is just one of those few that seem to think that fame and their position in whatever community they are in as being the most important....and barking orders to everyone else while never following those same rules themselves.

While I can't prove this...I do suspect it though, I do believe AfterLife like several I could mention...but I won't....was attempting to compete with modders like myself...DaBOSS....SWEGTA and others who have gone and made names for themselves. He likely wanted to do the same in order to 'bask in all that heavenly glory' and thing is....While I can't personally speak for anyone else, I have never tried to make any name for myself. It simply was just something that happened as a side effect of doing something I loved.

I and the rest of the staff here hold the final word on anything authority related dealing with the modding community. AfterLife does NOT.

You have to stand up for your principals and never let anyone get you down or stop you from doing something that you want to do.

This is the lesson I have TRIED to teach everyone here when I took charge of the modding community back when I laid down the groundwork for the model that I wanted the community to use. It is unacceptable for ANYONE to bash someone who is simply trying to learn to mod.

Think of it this way m8....Do singers and songwriters bash other singers for doing covers of their songs? Hell no they don't. If anything, most feel honored by that. While that material may belong to someone else, they are putting their own spin on that material and thus giving it a slightly different feel. Modding is no different. Nor is art.

AfterLife is also someone that I call an Elitist. Elitists in general...are all asshats and think they are better then everyone else at whatever they do.

I myself have never thought of myself as superior or better then anyone here. Hell...I may have started the current model of the modding community...I may have introduced everyone to things like lua as well as letting out details about the game internals...but I am not better then anyone here. If I were to call anyone here better then me...I would have to say on mod creativity alone and skill...DaBOSS would easily blow past me on that. Sure...I may have done lua longer then he has.....but he IS better at it then I am since he keeps himself motivated and keeps on practicing his coding skills. I myself rarely code anymore since I have been trying to get away from it (after doing programming for roughly 26 years I just want to do other things) and concentrate on the three things I love above all else....Writing...Art (ps and 3d) and helping people in need. Those are the things that I consider myself to be better at.
 
Title: Re: I am very sad and in a bad mood. Need to tell you something.
Post by: UltimateGamer9 on September 26, 2015, 02:13:58 AM
Thanks MadMan  :D.
Title: Re: I am very sad and in a bad mood. Need to tell you something.
Post by: MadmaN on September 26, 2015, 02:27:09 AM
Not a problem m8.

Just doing what I do best. Helping people out.

Plus...I just can't stand to see someone entertain thoughts of quitting. I never have...never will either. I just never went to that school og thought...so I don't know how to give up.

It is just like I tell my close m8 Red.....

"Break my arms and I still got my legs. Break my legs and I will use my tongue and dick and crawl along. I never stop."
Title: Re: I am very sad and in a bad mood. Need to tell you something.
Post by: Unknownsoldier on September 26, 2015, 02:35:51 AM
BOSS released his work open source, and actually does most of the time, if not all the time. Please have a look:
(http://i.imgur.com/0Yu0v5M.png)

as you can see, he said anyone can modify it. And the least you could actually do is just do what i do. You could say "Based off work from DaBOSS and The Dream Is Dead" or "Special Thanks To" or "Help from".

That's what I do if someone helps in mine. But I'm sure Boss won't mind. He's not going to get mad, plus he even released the source. When you release a source, you're allowing anyone to modify it.



Now, about AfterLife...

Long story short: He is evading ban. I don't know how to put this, and he might not want me doing this. But he is really mad over being banned on BB. BUT I still don't think he should be allowed back at all yet.

If you disagree, please have a look at these logs:
(http://i.imgur.com/E3Dn0MV.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/hEP7SMd.png)

Can't forget this one(my fav):
(http://i.imgur.com/kGC8CPz.png)
"i evaded on bb"

He's been taking it out on everyone. He's just pissed at everyone.

I have no problem with you (ultimategamer9), but he hinted the reason he doesn't like you: he thinks you got him banned because you brought up the subject of a possibility of his alt accounts(WHICH WAS TRUE).

he's been telling me all about it, and how he got his TOR browser to try it again and again.



New post while I posted. But what Mad said.

So, hopefully this clears up the reasons of his anger... Just ignore him is the least i could say.
Title: Re: I am very sad and in a bad mood. Need to tell you something.
Post by: UltimateGamer9 on September 26, 2015, 02:46:23 AM
So he hates me that way? But I never did anything to him.
Title: Re: I am very sad and in a bad mood. Need to tell you something.
Post by: SWEGTA on September 26, 2015, 02:46:55 AM
There is no sense in throwing in the towel of what some whiny bitch on Youtube does.
I don't know Afterlife or have any problem with him, but this is just a poor display.

I side with Mad on this one.
Title: Re: I am very sad and in a bad mood. Need to tell you something.
Post by: MadmaN on September 26, 2015, 02:57:46 AM
So he hates me that way? But I never did anything to him.

Little saying for ya m8,

"He who tries to please everybody pleases .nobody."

Don't worry about whether or not this or that person hates you. I myself have a LOT of enemies ..believe it or not....but this is due to another part of my background that still kinda haunts me till this day......due to being a former hacker....but I was a greyhat hacker rather then a whitehat or blackhat. Needless to say...I have a rather large amount of people that royally hate my guts and would love to piss on my grave if I were to ever die.

I simply don't let it get to me. I concentrate on those who are worthy of my attention and friendship. Friendship is something I take very seriously due to my own personal code of honor that I strictly bind myself to. Anyone here that knows me will back me up on this one too.

Only focus on those that are nice to you and enjoy being around you and enjoy your work. The people that have nasty things to say about you....just turn your back on them and simply ignore them.

This is just like another saying that has a long history with the internet: "Don't feed the trolls!"

:)
Title: Re: I am very sad and in a bad mood. Need to tell you something.
Post by: MadmaN on September 26, 2015, 03:03:28 AM
: he thinks you got him banned because you brought up the subject of a possibility of his alt accounts(WHICH WAS TRUE).

Actually, We on the staff knew about this before anyone even mentioned anything. I myself knew of the alternate accounts at the same time that King Cobra found out about it. King Cobra and I talk on almost a nightly basis and we keep a close eye on things like this. Chuck and Chrissy are also keeping an eye on things too. This is our job as staff here. Plus, I know several ways to find out the real ip of anyone using a proxy or vpn anyways. I will however NOT state how I do this as a good magician never gives away his secrets.... 8)
Title: Re: I am very sad and in a bad mood. Need to tell you something.
Post by: Shrimp on September 26, 2015, 06:06:40 AM
good grief why do people post this crap about other modder's ruining your life, please dont fill this board up with argument's cause afterlife is taking you down lol.
Title: Re: I am very sad and in a bad mood. Need to tell you something.
Post by: AlphaTech on September 26, 2015, 06:20:35 AM
@UG9
We haven't had a post like this in a long time I see. Why is Afterlife even trying to be a a jerk on youtube I clearly told him about this on youtube. As he accused me of being UG1 which I of course proved false, me and UG1 know each other in real life.

 I've known UG1 sense we were kids as I moved back and fourth. Lemon and AL do the samethings to me in general. They both accused me of being a different person and bashed me for no reason. I honestly let it go did some modding with Daboss he did a lot of work for me so they accused me of the same of course. I didn't care though because I created many mods using Dabosses setups and even created the Zombie Mod. So using the same idea's really don't matter if your mod has different features or varies from another mod which has the same title who cares really.

This would go in the general dicussion also and I am about to have a pretty big post about some stuff going on bb now.

@Madman
It's like everyone is on the same bully modding island but for some reason we always have the island idiot to cause problems for many trying to have fun. Like a emo kid in a house party or a cat with a pack of alley dogs lmao. You get what i'm saying though one bad apple to spoil the fun for everyone.

Title: Re: I am very sad and in a bad mood. Need to tell you something.
Post by: SimonBestia on September 26, 2015, 07:19:09 AM
@UltimateGamer9
As a big fan of your mod, I want to say something.

At the time you released your mod, yes, it was very similar to Deadpool's one, but had it's differences.
Maybe AfterLife was a big fan of Deadpool, was also pissed from being banned from B-B, and started to say stuff, but he was exaggerating when saying things like "You didn't did this all alone blablabla".

Don't mind him, and stop modding ONLY if YOU want to do that, if you think your idea is very similar to another person's, do everything possible to make it better/different.

There aren't many people active in this forum, but there are, so it would be a bad thing if you left BB, 'cause many users are always leaving in this period.



Title: Re: I am very sad and in a bad mood. Need to tell you something.
Post by: UltimateGamer9 on September 26, 2015, 07:22:53 AM
I thought you guys are in good terms.
Title: Re: I am very sad and in a bad mood. Need to tell you something.
Post by: BloodChuckZ on September 26, 2015, 07:50:06 AM
Stick around Dude, release your stuff over here.  Don't let ANYONE run your life or attempt to ruin what you do.  There's always gonna be Haters, life is like that. 
But those people comprise only a small minority, like 1% of your life.  Point is, do what YOU wanna do.  Ain't nobody God (even though I jokingly call myself one), that could destroy your life and your dreams, or your talent.

And for all you Modders....I come from long-ago Hippy roots.....It all takes Teamwork.

The Youngbloods - Get Together (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4fWN6VvgKQ#)
Title: Re: I am very sad and in a bad mood. Need to tell you something.
Post by: SWEGTA on September 26, 2015, 08:21:32 AM
The serial killer is right.
Most of these people just need to chill out for a second.

I remember watching a video by I Hate Everything, and he made a pretty good suggestion.
Before you press "Submit" after you've written an angry response, take a 5 minute break.
Go get a glass of water, then come back, read through it and reconsider whether or not it's worth sending.

It's basically "Think before you act".
Something that a lot of these evil-doers need to realize.
Title: Re: I am very sad and in a bad mood. Need to tell you something.
Post by: UltimateGamer9 on September 26, 2015, 08:45:35 AM
Wait a minute guys, I read Bibilo Techa Rules. It says NO Stealing anyone's idea. And I took Deadpoolxyz's idea  but I wasn't kicked. I wonder why? AfterLife said if I was one of them. I would've get KICKED.
Title: Re: I am very sad and in a bad mood. Need to tell you something.
Post by: nicefunfungirl on September 26, 2015, 08:51:45 AM
Honestly,I'm going to read all this through for sure in a bit,but what i'm going to say,Is LISTEN TO THEM PLEASE AND KEEP MODDING!! >.< YOU WERE ALSO DOING A GREAT JOB AT Local Multiplayer Mod V3,And i swear to fucking hell that you MUST make this,and even more mods! Keep making mods and don't fall into this guys tricks. (Although i seriously don't know him.)
Title: Re: I am very sad and in a bad mood. Need to tell you something.
Post by: DaBOSS54320 on September 26, 2015, 09:03:53 AM
If you really want to do a multiplayer mod, go ahead and do it. Just like unknownsoldier said, if you feel bad about getting the idea from deadpool then just give him a little shout-out in the release topic and/or readme.txt that the idea for the mod was based off of his. And besides it's not like multiplayer is that creative of an idea to steal... if it's an idea anyone could of easily came up with on their own (like multiplayer) then I don't think it should be considered stealing to try and make your own. If it's a really creative and unique idea, maybe get permission from the original author first.

Like everyone else said, don't let AfterLife get to you. He's trying to hurt you and you let him win by giving into him. AfterLife is banned for good from here so you don't have to worry about him here, and just ignore him on other places, simple as that. WE all support you (just look at this huge topic of support), so for us, say "fuck AfterLife!" and keep pushing through.

About my tutorial/mods being open-source... I make them open-source for a reason. I want everyone to be free to learn from them, modify them, or do whatever to them freely as they choose. I will never be upset if someone takes a mod of mine and re-releases it even with slight changes, in fact I'll be honored and it'll make me happy you even wanted to do it. I don't care if you give me credit or not, since honestly in most cases people will probably know it was mine originally anyways, and even if they don't all that matters to me is that the mod I put out there is making people happy since that's the only reason I release mods anyways. One of the most rewarding parts of modding for me is seeing everyone enjoy the mods, or watching people play them, and so forth. So go ahead and take my mod, make it better, and re-release it. Won't hurt me in the slightest and it'll just give everyone else another fun mod to enjoy.
Title: Re: I am very sad and in a bad mood. Need to tell you something.
Post by: King Cobra on September 26, 2015, 09:06:31 AM
Wait a minute guys, I read Bibilo Techa Rules. It says NO Stealing anyone's idea. And I took Deadpoolxyz's idea  but I wasn't kicked. I wonder why? AfterLife said if I was one of them. I would've get KICKED.

The rules of Biblio Techa are only applied to those who are part of that team. DON'T listen to AfterLife. He doesn't make the rules here. He isn't the authority of modding. NOBODY is. Modding is about sharing ideas and working together. When you turn modding into a competition and fight over who stole what and what mod belongs to who, it's not even fun anymore.
Title: Re: I am very sad and in a bad mood. Need to tell you something.
Post by: nicefunfungirl on September 26, 2015, 09:33:57 AM
Listen to themm.. LISTEN TO THEMM!! X_X

And let me beta test still please for the multiplayer moddd? =_=
Title: Re: I am very sad and in a bad mood. Need to tell you something.
Post by: UltimateGamer9 on September 26, 2015, 09:47:37 AM
So guys. Thanks for telling me all this. And nicefunfungirl I can't yet. I messed up my source of the mod. So I'm afraid you'll have to wait.
Title: Re: I am very sad and in a bad mood. Need to tell you something.
Post by: ShadowRageEX on September 26, 2015, 10:43:44 AM
Take you'r time mate you are a great MODDER! I am actually waiting for Multiplayer Mod and AfterLife is a jerk! He was even mad at me bcz I just said the right thing on the BETA BULLY Thread! And that pissed him of lol! Anyway keep doing what you are doing! :)
Title: Re: I am very sad and in a bad mood. Need to tell you something.
Post by: Unknownsoldier on September 26, 2015, 12:55:21 PM
: he thinks you got him banned because you brought up the subject of a possibility of his alt accounts(WHICH WAS TRUE).

Actually, We on the staff knew about this before anyone even mentioned anything. I myself knew of the alternate accounts at the same time that King Cobra found out about it. King Cobra and I talk on almost a nightly basis and we keep a close eye on things like this. Chuck and Chrissy are also keeping an eye on things too. This is our job as staff here. Plus, I know several ways to find out the real ip of anyone using a proxy or vpn anyways. I will however NOT state how I do this as a good magician never gives away his secrets.... 8)
Rofl, that's some magic right there! But in seriousness, he told me he was going to evade it BEFORE anything even happened. He asked me for a proxy or some way to use a different IP. With me not knowing WHY he needed it, I just said "tor browser".
Title: Re: I am very sad and in a bad mood. Need to tell you something.
Post by: deadpoolXYZ on September 26, 2015, 01:01:39 PM
I don't understand why it is such a big deal if he is trash talking you on youtube... you can just block him and that's it. The fact that he is trying to expose you seems pretty pointless to me... It's not like anyone gives a f :Dck about it. Even I don't mind about the similarites of our mods anymore.

I admit I was a bit mad about your mod AT FIRST but I was being kinda a bitch so sorry about what I said. I NEVER said that your work was better/worse than mine nor that you should have stopped working on it because it was similar to my version.

And besides it's not like multiplayer is that creative of an idea to steal... if it's an idea anyone could of easily came up with on their own (like multiplayer) then I don't think it should be considered stealing to try and make your own.

I didn't get mad because he came up with the local mutiplayer mod idea just like me... like you said it's a pretty generic idea that anyone could have came up with. The problem was that it was something like a bootleg version of mine... it was pretty similar (mod name, spawn location, red/green color blips, panoramic angle camera, teleport with button, etc) but with his own code.
Madman himself said that it's not bad to take someone else ideas AS LONG as you give them your own twist... which I couldn't find in his mod unfortunately . The only original feature that wasn't in my version was the drive by thing, which was pretty cool in my opinion.

If his mod was a local multiplayer mod but with totally different features that didn't ressemble my mod then I wouldn't have minded about it. AGAIN, I'm not saying that his version is better nor worse than mine, it's just "too similar".
Title: Re: I am very sad and in a bad mood. Need to tell you something.
Post by: UltimateGamer9 on September 26, 2015, 01:10:45 PM
The mod I will make is no longer look like yours Dream Is Dead. It will be a lot different than it will be. This mod will be spawned at wherever you've saved. But AfterLife is still saying the same thing for some reason. It will have 4 Players which will be a lot different than yours TDID(The Dream Is Dead for short). The names of cameras will be changed.
Title: Re: I am very sad and in a bad mood. Need to tell you something.
Post by: MadmaN on September 26, 2015, 07:56:11 PM
UltimateGamer9

If you want....since this will give you a rather nice start for this, I can give you what I have when I started working on a similar mod way back a couple years ago. I never released the code to anyone and more then willing to let you use it for your mod. You don't even have to credit me for it since it was mostly test code I was messing around with while trying to figure some of the lua internals out for the game...since a local multiplayer is of no real use to me personally. Tho, here is a tip for you and an offer if you decide to take this up....

Since the Bully Multiplayer team has no intentions at this time to incorporate full coop play or ai...etc into their mod for online play...maybe WE as in the BB modders can all team up and add to this project and maybe even help you out a little bit with it. This would be a great exercise for everyone on practicing REAL teamwork together and come up with something we all can be proud of being part of.

We could all chip in little bits to make the local multiplayer fully able to do coop play so that if say one of you has a friend or two over at your house ....then you could fire Bully up and play through the entire game in a full coop mode that works. Mind you...there would be a couple minor hurdles to overcome such as proper usage of cameras so that it would be more usable due to no actual splitscreen mode...least not that I ever found yet.....and go from there. Then you would have a seriously unique mod to be proud of doing work on.

You don't have to do this....it is just a cool suggestion for you to think over since...while I am technically retired from all modding....I am more then willing to still do a few mods here and there.

Oh and btw, DaBOSS and I resurrected the PSMM mod and we will be finishing that off fully for everyone. We already have complete ide bypass working for all peds including player (minus a couple hiccups) and I am trying right now to get time to add to the project and code up some other things that will be needed for this to be fully working. Trying to go for a full game integration so this will not break anything in the game and allow you to play through the entire game without having anything break on you. DaBOSS and I will explain all of that in a seperate thread as soon as we feel the time is right.
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Post by: nicefunfungirl on September 27, 2015, 12:02:12 AM
UltimateGamer9

If you want....since this will give you a rather nice start for this, I can give you what I have when I started working on a similar mod way back a couple years ago. I never released the code to anyone and more then willing to let you use it for your mod. You don't even have to credit me for it since it was mostly test code I was messing around with while trying to figure some of the lua internals out for the game...since a local multiplayer is of no real use to me personally. Tho, here is a tip for you and an offer if you decide to take this up....

Since the Bully Multiplayer team has no intentions at this time to incorporate full coop play or ai...etc into their mod for online play...maybe WE as in the BB modders can all team up and add to this project and maybe even help you out a little bit with it. This would be a great exercise for everyone on practicing REAL teamwork together and come up with something we all can be proud of being part of.

We could all chip in little bits to make the local multiplayer fully able to do coop play so that if say one of you has a friend or two over at your house ....then you could fire Bully up and play through the entire game in a full coop mode that works. Mind you...there would be a couple minor hurdles to overcome such as proper usage of cameras so that it would be more usable due to no actual splitscreen mode...least not that I ever found yet.....and go from there. Then you would have a seriously unique mod to be proud of doing work on.

You don't have to do this....it is just a cool suggestion for you to think over since...while I am technically retired from all modding....I am more then willing to still do a few mods here and there.

Oh and btw, DaBOSS and I resurrected the PSMM mod and we will be finishing that off fully for everyone. We already have complete ide bypass working for all peds including player (minus a couple hiccups) and I am trying right now to get time to add to the project and code up some other things that will be needed for this to be fully working. Trying to go for a full game integration so this will not break anything in the game and allow you to play through the entire game without having anything break on you. DaBOSS and I will explain all of that in a seperate thread as soon as we feel the time is right.

It's great to be able to read great ideas like this. :3

AND PSMM? WAAAAAAAAAAT?! 0_0

(If I'm correct,this includes the voices for characters too like i used to be OBSESSING deadly over?)
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Post by: MadmaN on September 27, 2015, 04:26:56 AM
That was one of the ideas but I don't know if that will be implemented here. It all depends on how much time I get to even work on this. So far I myself have had almost zero time to work on it where DaBOSS has gotten one heck of a nice headstart over me on it. But....we will see what happens....I can't promise anything nor will I commit to any set release date for anything. Tho atm we do have a rather functioning setup that works pretty well.
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Post by: nicefunfungirl on September 27, 2015, 08:43:30 AM
That was one of the ideas but I don't know if that will be implemented here. It all depends on how much time I get to even work on this. So far I myself have had almost zero time to work on it where DaBOSS has gotten one heck of a nice headstart over me on it. But....we will see what happens....I can't promise anything nor will I commit to any set release date for anything. Tho atm we do have a rather functioning setup that works pretty well.

Regardless,I know the mod will turn out good because it's being made by BULLY BOARD'S MODDING GURUUU! XD

And also DaBOSS Who would be next in line to you in modding. xD
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Post by: AlphaTech on September 27, 2015, 05:24:32 PM
@Nicefunfungirl Maybe you could try creating some mods of your own so you dont have to wait their are tons of PSM's mods released. Trust me you'll feel better doing your own thing then having to wait years for anything to get released.

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Post by: nicefunfungirl on September 27, 2015, 06:55:17 PM
@Nicefunfungirl Maybe you could try creating some mods of your own so you dont have to wait their are tons of PSM's mods released. Trust me you'll feel better doing your own thing then having to wait years for anything to get released.

Uuuh..I can't. Strange learning problem...
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Post by: AlphaTech on September 27, 2015, 07:29:17 PM
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Lol it's not really hard to mod a cave man could do it  :a-cheer: Just try it out you will open doors for yourself in the modding community.
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Post by: MadmaN on September 27, 2015, 10:53:35 PM

Lol it's not really hard to mod a cave man could do it  :a-cheer: Just try it out you will open doors for yourself in the modding community.

Actually, not everyone has the same capability or capacity to learn the same things. Everyone is different!  :cool:
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Post by: SWEGTA on September 27, 2015, 11:10:50 PM
Though Mad is right, the group of people that can't modify a game at all (despite having the resources and help to guide them through it) do exist, it's still very easy to mod Bully.
I've made tutorials before on this and people on B-B have done a far better job than me at explaining everything step-by-step.
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Post by: DaBOSS54320 on September 28, 2015, 12:03:51 AM
Leave funfungirl alone... she just wants stuff given to her for free without doing any work... is that so wrong?
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Post by: SWEGTA on September 28, 2015, 01:11:47 AM
Even if that's the case, it's her prerogative to expect that.
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Post by: Mick3Mouse on September 28, 2015, 01:56:47 AM
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Post by: The 510 Series on September 28, 2015, 03:46:01 PM
AfterLife comes across as an unpleasant character, it must be said. The unnecessary rudeness in some of his posts highlights that.
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Post by: AlphaTech on September 28, 2015, 05:33:55 PM
Their isn't a problem in asking someone if they want to learn or why they don't she explained why I just told her an explination of what modding yourself could do. Stop being a bunch of sissies acting like no one can talk to each other fucking faggets.  ^-^
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Post by: Unknownsoldier on September 29, 2015, 07:23:48 PM
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