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Bully => Bully 1 Discussion => Topic started by: Jay on February 13, 2012, 12:21:25 PM
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Yeah, yeah, there might of been an official thread on this, but since I can't be asked to look, I'll just start one.... and don't bother moaning at me... so here...
1. Gary was the easiest boss in the entire game.
Carry on....
So basically it's a Bitchin' Thread about Bully.....
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Gary.
:D
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A lot of things.
1. No extra wrestling classes (like dodgeball).
2. You can beat ted with a single attack in the big game.
3. Not every cloth from each faction.
4. No bully faction hangout.
5. Most of the enemies are too easy to beat up (and boss fights).
6. Most of missions interiors aren't avaible on freeroam (like in most of gta games).
7. Can't remove tattoos.
8. WTF happened with the hobbo who thaught Jimmy? Never explained. anal probe?
9. The back part of the asylum leads you to a place where you can't get out forcing you to restart the game.
10. Town persons can bust Jimmy.
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Gary.
:D
+1
Though beating Ted with a single attack also ranks. It's amusing that he's the easiest boss in the game and Earnest is arguably the hardest.
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Ted was actually supposed to be a harder boss in the beta.
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I felt Russell was the hardest to beat, followed by Constantinos in the Bullhorn head in the Pool.
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Bully is so awesome but here are my reasons.
for xbox360 they put some shitty multiplayer mode where you race bikes.. If they where to put online ideas (like the thread where I put all ideas for Bully online ideas) it would be awesome, but no. Shitty bike racing.
Nothing much to do after the game
You can't go out of bullworth
That they did not use the beta story line, which was waaay better than the original..
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Trouble meter was too easy to lose.
When prefects chase you, it's over in 4 seconds.
The school kids were too unrealstic. When someone has a convo the replys are far from real.
Jimmy can run forever and not be out of breath. I wouldn't mind infinite running after doing a special task.
The physics SUCKED.
While I did enjoy the storyline missions I did find it terrible how some parts were in free-roam. If you ask me, the preppie respect should be 55% or 60%.
Like chapter 2, Gord speaks like he was Jimmy's friend but if you find him in chapter 2 he'll be disrespectful.
Everyone was easy as fuck to beat up. Even the Jocks.
The storyline should of been more "mixed" like chapter 1, when Jimmy was clashing with the Bullies, BUT also helped the nerds and pissed off the Jocks in the same chapter.
The multiplayer on the Wii and Xbox wasn't the best ever. It felt more like a multiplayer party game than it did Bully.
The amount of Girls in Bullworth was shocking! I hope in Bully 2 there'll be more realistic amount of girls and little kids. (E.G 47 Boys, 55 girls, 68 Little kids)
Jimmy should be able to lose/gain weight. I want this feature for Bully 2 and GTA V.
You should be allowed to enter the classrooms OUT of class times.
Jimmy should get a full trouble meter if he climbs to the top of the school building.
Detentions should be different.
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Bully was a fantasic game but there was so much stuff in it that could/should of been better.
I did enjoy the arcade games a lot.
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My main gripe was the areas you could only access during missions. After the mission is done, you should be able to go back.
The Boy's Dorm rooms should be open just like the Girl's are.
There should be a bathroom in the Boy's Dorm. What do they do, piss outside ?
Needs to be a second floor on the Boy's Dorm, at the very least.
The Third Floor of the school needs to be opened up, as does the classrooms, Teacher's Lounge, Auditorium, Etc.
Climbing out the East window and winding up on the South Balcony makes no sense.
FILL THE POOL, DAMMIT !!
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I was waiting for Chuck to yell, "Fill the pool!"
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"The physics SUCKED"
True, it was glitchy. Still, I'd take preset animations in this case over ragdoll physics.
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everyone who wants to be able to go in classrooms, auditorium,all that. me mad and imod got all interiors open ( i give the largest amount of credit to mad) mad posted about it in the ultimate modding thread
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How obscure and mind numbingly repetitive some of the tasks for obtaining 100% completion can be.
There's no missions for prom, finals, or graduation.
Photography class's rewards are lame.
The bottle rocket launcher and spud gun run out of ammo quickly.
The only girls Jimmy can do anything with are jailbait.
Trying to use stealth outside of certain missions or certain building interiors doesn't work very well.
Missions require a lot of backtracking.
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Yeah, I'd like to add a thing I really disliked, like Corpse said about stealth.
Rockstar and Stealth Missions are a pile of shit.... like the Finding Johnny Vincent mission.. I spent like 2 hours on that, because you get some Orderly saying 'Your not supposed to be in here..' bla bla....
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Rockstar can do stealth action gameplay really well, like in the Manhunt series. But in other games where they try to incorporate the same thing it usually falls flat completely.
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Rockstar can do stealth action gameplay really well, like in the Manhunt series. But in other games where they try to incorporate the same thing it usually falls flat completely.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I guess why the stealth is so crap in Bully/GTA is because they don't have the same style as Manhunt.... however Rockstar gets too over-excited or something, so they try to bring stealth from Manhunt into Bully/GTA which goes terribly wrong because it dosn't have the same structure as Manhunt? Am I wrong??
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If they tried to put the same style of stealth gameplay that's in Manhunt into GTA/Bully it wouldn't work. Trying to duplicate the same feeling of tension and atmosphere wouldn't make a whole lot of sense for the type of games they are. What they do instead is duplicate it on a very, VERY basic level. What ends up happening is these sections of the game are used too rarely or break under the kind of control these games incorporate.
What they could do instead is use Manhunt's stealth mechanics as a base, but at the same time prefect the controls and give the player more options and incentive to do so.
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If they used stealth that's similar to the one in The Warriors, would've been fine.
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Some Shadows to hide in would help....
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Yeah, it would be cool to see. But the trash cans and lockers you can hide in pretty much have the same effect.
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If they tried to put the same style of stealth gameplay that's in Manhunt into GTA/Bully it wouldn't work.
I'll admit in GTA it's a lil better cos you have the guns and more risk of being caught.
With Bully however, it's kinda "out of order" if you know what I mean.
Finding Johnny Vincent should of had more orderlies or mental patients who'll scream if they see you. Or rescuing Johnny from the townie hideout.
I don't wanna sound like I'm offending Rockstar, but I could of thought of a lot better layout for Chapter 5.
Finding Johnny Vincent, You see Lola and Norton talking and then Peanut comes up, with bruises saying the townies kidnapped and attack Johnny.
You then have to go to the Townie hangout (Hideout save point) and search for Johnny with no help, and the townies have fire crackers and bottle rockets. and there are loads of them.
Not just 7, but say about 16.
Then a mini-boss fight against Henry would be fun. Or Gurney.
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They could have explained some things better. For example, show you what Gary was doing behind your back - sort of like a 'meanwhile...' type scenario. Alternatively, they could have had either flashback scenes or even artwork depicting what Gary was doing to get you into trouble/hated while he was explaining his things during his monologue. You really only see Gary being malicious towards you in The Hole and in one of the prep missions. I think that while the story was good, it did have a lot of holes. More could have been explained. They definitely could have delved deeper into the cliques/characters. Maybe even made the story a bit darker.
I think it would have been interesting to see Gary's sanity unraveling and his influence grow. As for Jimmy, it would have been interesting to have members of the factions shun him, or perform malicious pranks on him, as well. Things like the 'kick me' sign, or kicking the soccer ball at him to knock him down - or even trip him if he was running by..
The game was brilliant, definitely innovative, but I think they could have done more.
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Wow I had the idea to make a machinima about that. It's like you read my mind. LOL
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I agree, but at the same time I like that we don't know what Gary was really up to. Gives us room to speculate. Like in Manhunt how they never gave us any back story for James Earl Cash. We don't know how he ended up on death row, what crimes or circumstances he was convicted under, or even if he was truly guilty to begin with. I think what Rockstar was getting at is, since Cash doesn't have any solid background information you have to bring your own ideas and interpretations that makes the story more interesting to you.
Same could be said about Gary.
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Yeah, but here's the thing: He's a known sociopath, apparently. And despite this reputation, he can still somehow manipulate others into such extreme measures.
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Just like some people we all know in Real Life.
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Ain't it the (sad) truth.
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I agree, but at the same time I like that we don't know what Gary was really up to. Gives us room to speculate. Like in Manhunt how they never gave us any back story for James Earl Cash. We don't know how he ended up on death row, what crimes or circumstances he was convicted under, or even if he was truly guilty to begin with. I think what Rockstar was getting at is, since Cash doesn't have any solid background information you have to bring your own ideas and interpretations that makes the story more interesting to you.
Same could be said about Gary.
Yeah. Like in GTA SA.
SPOILER AHEAD
After the Green Sabre, we know what Big Smoke and Ryder are up to,with Ryder bringing dugs to LS with the Loco Syndicate and Smoke signing for the drugs, but we don't actually know what Tenpenny is up to, until the few last missions.
This part is about Bully 2
I want to see a broader story.
Like we get tips/hear stuff about what the antogonist is up to behind our backs.
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I definitely agree that it would be awesome to see how Gary caused grief for Jimmy, it would make the game more interesting in my opinion. It could be like a twist..should I say, Gary went through a tough life because no-body liked him, he would often get beat up and abused by his parents?
What I'm saying Gary wanted to come out of his shell and try to be the big guy and get noticed by the other cliques and student's. So he done the same thing his Bullies done to him, that was just a made-up example what Gary's life was like when he was younger.
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Directed by M. Night Shyamalan...
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Things that sucked? Well, I can name a few:
Jimmy and Gary didn't have a long enough friendship so the reason for Jimmy to be so mad at him wasn't good enough.
And after Gary's betrayal Jimmy never even looks for him. He is only mentioned in the start of the last three chapters. And Jimmy never does anything when Gary lies to Tad IN FRONT OF HIS EYES.
It's wrong to say that in the start of Chapter 5 Jimmy gave up on searching for Gary. Because he never did. It would've been cool if there was such a mission.
Pete and Jimmy never 'spent time with eachother'. The only time when Jimmy talked with Pete were in the start of the chapter and when Jimmy needed help. I don't see how that makes them best of friends. You never do any missions for Pete aside from the package delivery during Chapter 1. You never let him tag along with you. The only times that happens is again during Chapter 1. And that's because Gary wanted Pete to come along. Oh and in Ch. 2 where you see him for a split second in the school and after that on the beach.
After Jimmy takes over a Clique he never 'visits' them. That happens only during Tagging.
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Things that sucked? Well, I can name a few:
Jimmy and Gary didn't have a long enough friendship so the reason for Jimmy to be so mad at him wasn't good enough.
And after Gary's betrayal Jimmy never even looks for him. He is only mentioned in the start of the last three chapters. And Jimmy never does anything when Gary lies to Tad IN FRONT OF HIS EYES.
It's wrong to say that in the start of Chapter 5 Jimmy gave up on searching for Gary. Because he never did. It would've been cool if there was such a mission.
Pete and Jimmy never 'spent time with eachother'. The only time when Jimmy talked with Pete were in the start of the chapter and when Jimmy needed help. I don't see how that makes them best of friends. You never do any missions for Pete aside from the package delivery during Chapter 1. You never let him tag along with you. The only times that happens is again during Chapter 1. And that's because Gary wanted Pete to come along. Oh and in Ch. 2 where you see him for a split second in the school and after that on the beach.
After Jimmy takes over a Clique he never 'visits' them. That happens only during Tagging.
Don't forget you see pete in the greasers boss fight chapter 3.
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The only time when Jimmy talked with Pete were in the start of the chapter and when Jimmy needed help.
That counts as 'needed help' :D
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One major gripe I have is the Wii version's controls (and lack of support for the classic controller)
They make some of the classes far too easy, while making some stuff like learning the hobo moves virtually impossible (I've just given up after 45 minutes trying to get the heavy kick combo...)
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^I agree there.
I hate how you can't look back on the Wii version. Don't know about the 360 one, but I kinda liked to see how close my chaser was to me.
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I think in the 360 version you could click in on the right analog and you would be able to see behind you.
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Here's some things that could be better.
1: A PS3 version. (Maybe just one more remake.)
2: Characters could block a little more as sometimes, it can be a little too easy.
3: Clique leaders in freeroam. (At least Russell is around.)
4: Prefects should fight back at someone instead of just busting them all the time.
5: The Wii version could have a little more realistic controls as if you're really doing something.
6: When zoomed in, a message gets in the way. Even if you're watching a fight. (Wii version.)
7: Improved Phisics.
8: Different punishments like cleaning up a mess instead of just mowing the lawn.
9: More weather changes, like snowing more often instead of just in chapter 3.
10: The Rubberband Ball glitch needs fixing because after you unlock it and load after saving, you can't use it anymore.
Here's all i can think off. Tell me if they sound good.
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I never had any issues with the Rubberband Ball access after saving on the PS2.
I would actually like to see a 'snowstorm' in Chapter 3. Or a thunderstorm (with high winds) elsewhere.
Mowing the grass all the time SUCKS.
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Mowing the grass all the time SUCKS.
I'd like to see some more realistic detentions like having to empty bins and cleaning floors.
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That might be problematic, as Jimmy hides in them. Really hardly any trash in them. Bullworth is a pigsty anyhow.
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That might be problematic, as Jimmy hides in them. Really hardly any trash in them. Bullworth is a pigsty anyhow.
What about the snow that magicly appeared?
Or how the grass grew long in the few seconds Crabblesnitch spoke to Jimmy?
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Nice to see I'm getting quoted a lot, but not really necessary.....
Yeah, I love it how the grass by the Parking Lot & the Prep's Yard only had to be mowed ONCE, and it was all good.....But the Football Field seems to have an out-of-control growing problem. Maybe if they actually played some GAMES there, it might not grow so fast.....