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Title: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: Evolution on March 09, 2013, 11:05:12 PM
ANSWER TEH DAMN QUESTION.

(I would put non clique in their... But uhhh... They are "Non-Clique") So....
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: UltimateGamer1 on March 09, 2013, 11:45:13 PM
I'm crazy just like the townies I would love to be one of them they are the strongest clique.
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: WhenLifeGivesYouLemons on March 10, 2013, 12:41:24 AM
Greasers  :cool:

(http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/2465/greasers9gd.jpg)

(http://images1.fanpop.com/images/image_uploads/The-Outsiders-the-outsiders-980010_1920_1463.jpg)

(http://www.virginmedia.com/images/Henry_Winkler_Fonz_290x400.jpg)
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: Evolution on March 10, 2013, 12:45:21 AM
I chose Jocks... Only due to the fact that I'm a sporty person and all...

Although, being a Jock would make you an "Automatic Asshole" so.... Think of me as a 'Nice Jock' 8)
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: xXxNarumi on March 10, 2013, 01:27:37 AM
Townies.
Real niggas walk around breaking rules!
And even hanging out in the Industry
Nigga....
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: Evolution on March 10, 2013, 03:39:05 AM
In a place like Bullworth, if you're non-clique, you would be relentlessly picked on by the Bullies and ignored by the other cliques, in Bullworth, you'll need some protection.

Think of Bullworth Academy as a Prison (Which it is) you'll need protection, thus, you join a gang.

If you don't... You'll be the victim of the prison convicts, just like in Bullworth.

Joining a clique= Protection.
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: Bigfoot on March 10, 2013, 05:39:48 AM
I'm actually a "former-Jock" - but not as in the school clique.  In Scotland, "Jocks" is actually a reference for those in the Scottish regiments of the British Army.  Granted, I was only in the Territorial Army, but I was with the Argylls - one of the most historic Scottish regiments of all.  (If you've heard the saying "The thin red line", thank the Argylls for it...)

In terms of cliques, I'd probably fit in best with the nerds, but being the way I am I'd probably stay non-clique.
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: Jimmette on March 10, 2013, 07:35:26 AM
Preppies......
1 word= Money.
Feel like a gold-digger now
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: Evolution on March 10, 2013, 07:38:52 AM
^ You'd have to be rich to do join the bastards :P

or... you could be a servant for them at the Harrington House or something, idk

Besides the Jocks... I wouldn't be too keen on slicking my hair back and looking like I'm stuck in the 50s (No matter how much I love the Greasers) if I did, I guess I'd be like Lucky (In fashion sense) as he hasn't got the slicked back hair and 'Greaser' look.

Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: Jimmette on March 10, 2013, 07:50:36 AM
What mess, well the Nerds since they have the same personality as meh.
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: Evolution on March 10, 2013, 07:57:33 AM
I would join the Nerds as they are smart like me.... kinda... okay... NO... But, book smart! and they have loads of weapons, which would act as protection, not to mention that each and every one of them nerds will grow up to be mad scientists.

Although, I'd be neglected for not looking 'Nerdy' enough :'(
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: SWEGTA on March 10, 2013, 08:41:20 AM
Bullies.
In order to not get picked on, you must pick on others. I may not like it (altough I do tend to tease about 5 to 6 people in my school, 7 of which are teachers). It gives me a sence of pride and makes me feel dominant over others. Fuck yeah.

One thing though is that I'd NEVER threaten anyone. Nor cross the line to use violence, unless I get provoced. One person in my class is named Deividas. He calls himself David and insists that others do so as well. Because of the fact that he is so insistant, me and my friend usually call him "Gayvidas" or "DeyIvas" <-- Ivas is a class for people who go in small classes for extra help. Yeah yeah I know. I'm a jerk.


My victims:

Mårten (Teacher)
We call out "Murteeeeeeeeeen" everytime we see him.
We also tend to be rude to him, one time our class got cancelled and people were bummed for some reason. So he said "It's seems that everyone here is pretty annoyed", my friend replied "Yeah, it's because you showed up" and we laughed at him.

Jerzy (Teacher)
He's slow. I mean SLOOOOOOOW. And when you talk to him, he tends to randomly SCREAM. My friend went up to him and said "Hey, Jerzy." and he shouted out "HEEEEEEYYY!!!!!!!".
So we tend to pick on him and impersonate him.

Deividas (Student)
We tend to pick on him through simple bad comments.
It's fun and he's actually quite stupid. He also calls women objects, smoking good and doesn't like Christians. So yeah..

Nyström (Student)
This guy is actually beginnin to go over to my good side as we tend to consersate in a friendly manor when Deividas, his friend is not around. Everytime this guy disses his friend, he earns my respect.

Moa (Student)
We  call this chick "MOOOOOOO" as her name is close to it and Jerzy (the teacher) tend to pronounce her name "Mooooaah".

Morgan (Student)
His alone. And awkward. That's what makes it fun to talk crap about him.

Tobias (Student)
He's alone as well! Quite a fun victim to talk crap about.




You'll all probably think of me as a prick now, but what the hell :)
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: Evolution on March 10, 2013, 08:46:06 AM

It gives me a sence of pride and makes me feel dominant over others. Fuck yeah.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUvFeyGxaaU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUvFeyGxaaU)

Sorry bro, I had to... The video kinda' explains a lot of the Bullies not just in my school, but world wide. Funny comedy sketch with truth in it :'D
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: SWEGTA on March 10, 2013, 08:51:56 AM
^Nice video!
Love it already.

Reminds me of Trent when he says that he has been having sexual fantasies about other boys in the school.
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: Evolution on March 10, 2013, 09:00:36 AM
Lemme' ask you a question, though...

Do you Bully people because it's the only defense mechanism you have against deeper, more terrifying problems buried inside of you or is it simply "Survival of the fittest" ?...

Just be sure not to internalize family issues and unknowingly transmit it onto others...
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: juggalo66692 on March 10, 2013, 09:18:02 AM
bullies because i am pretty much an asshole to everybody except my juggalo family MMFWCL WHOOP WHOOP
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: Evolution on March 10, 2013, 09:27:49 AM
    
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You and SWEGTA would get along just fine in the school-yard, eh? ;)

Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: SWEGTA on March 10, 2013, 09:41:04 AM
Yeah, we're both fans of ICP, play Bully and we like to harass others.
Anyway, I do Bully because it makes me feel tougher, safer and at the same time it stops others from picking on me. Often times, bullies don't harass other bullies (though I don't necessaraly call myself a bully, more just a jerk).

If you're alone, sad and stupid then yeah. People are going to pick on you. No doubt about that.
But if you're secure, surrounded by others and have on problem with being a jerk now and then, the risks aren't really that big of you getting picked on.

If I didn't pick on others, I'd have been picked on long ago. I actually have been, but I ended up beating the shit out of the person who harassed me. Not the best solution, but hey. It works.

And when I'm seen being a dick towards others and people whom I like talk to me, I'm very friendly towards them. This usually leads them to be even friendlier towards me as it shows greater how I feel about them.
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: Evolution on March 10, 2013, 09:50:54 AM
..... Well, thank you for opening up to us, you two.

But to be honest bro, picking on people smaller than you may make you feel as if you're a 'tough guy' but it's all an illusion. I've seen it before, I never did it first hand because I didn't really do it much (Besides a few friendly teases here and there) but I saw a few friends do it, I kind of drifted away from them because I decided they weren't the type of people I want to hang around with.

Although SWEG, make sure not to pick on the wrong people... One of my former 'Friends' decided to pick on someone his own size, and on the wrong day as well, he ended up with a few days off school staying on his back in his bed recovering, and a long suspension for them both.

Must say though, he got what was coming to him 8)

Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: juggalo66692 on March 10, 2013, 10:10:31 AM
honestly i stick up for the little guys and give hell to certain people like the preps and jocks because they think they are hot shit and all that but personally if people cant deal with it pick on somebody else ya know
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: SWEGTA on March 10, 2013, 10:21:16 AM
Yeah I mean.
Juggalos are about showing respect to your fellow neighbour.
But at the same time, if I don't pick on others. They'll pick on me.
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: BloodChuckZ on March 10, 2013, 10:22:06 AM
Gotta be a Greaser for me, since I can't see myself fitting into the other Cliques.

But a smart Greaser.  I'd be the leader.
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: Evolution on March 10, 2013, 10:23:09 AM
^ I wouldn't be surprised, Chuck... Greaser leader, natural leadership skills, and charisma.


Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: BloodChuckZ on March 10, 2013, 10:25:33 AM
Eeeay.....Natch.  Gimmie my ring since I am the King.
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: SWEGTA on March 10, 2013, 10:29:26 AM
Chuck high as fuck
Talkin' 'bout rings n shit
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: BloodChuckZ on March 10, 2013, 10:33:40 AM
Greaser Chuck don't give a fuck.

Rule the gang, It be my thang.
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: UltimateGamer1 on March 10, 2013, 11:26:22 AM
Wow SWEGTA and Juggalo Bullies lol. I think I see allot of my personality in Edgar I dropped out of school myself and I would beat the living crap out of everyone I see in my school. Especially the bullies, SWEGTA and Juggalo would get the grand prize smack down  :jajaja:  >:D
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: MikerBarba on March 10, 2013, 12:05:52 PM
The Punks
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: Evolution on March 10, 2013, 08:53:41 PM
^ Why not the Greasers?...
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: DreamEvo on March 10, 2013, 09:04:39 PM
Its cool how you two opened up but over, bullies get jumped and hurt really bad. You have to be in a clique here or you will be disrespected by everybody.
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: BloodChuckZ on March 10, 2013, 10:40:35 PM
Cuz the Punks are Killers.
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: juggalo66692 on March 11, 2013, 02:49:45 AM
i dont get picked on i just do my own thing and just move on but i watch out for others though i guess im a lot like jimmy though
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: xXxNarumi on March 11, 2013, 02:55:05 AM
Punks is Townies but renamed...
These merdging gang crap is Bull shed.
Only different thing is Russell is swapped to be a BULLY.
There. PUNKS IS TOWNIES.
Sorry to burst any bubbles.


How did that happen<
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: BloodChuckZ on March 11, 2013, 12:43:09 PM
Deleted Sid was a Punk but not a Townie.

(http://images.wikia.com/bullygame/images/d/d8/Beta_Sid.jpg)
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: Dave on March 11, 2013, 03:20:12 PM
I'd be one of the non-cliques.

Not smart enough to be a nerd.
Not rich enough to be a preppy.
Lol no not a bully/greaser/jock/townie.
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: xXxNarumi on March 11, 2013, 03:20:16 PM
Deleted Sid was a Punk but not a Townie.

(http://images.wikia.com/bullygame/images/d/d8/Beta_Sid.jpg)
Sid is Omar.
ROCKSTAR confirmed to have him remodeled.
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: Walter20210 on March 11, 2013, 07:37:40 PM
So when the game was released sid grows...?
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: xXxNarumi on March 11, 2013, 07:54:39 PM
Russell Lost weight didn't he?
Same with Enda lol.
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: DreamEvo on March 11, 2013, 08:01:19 PM
Ehh.. They're both crazy anyways.
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: Bullyfan No.1 on March 18, 2013, 02:00:56 PM
I'll chose nerds,because what's more badass than a home made tank?
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: EmilSoTrill on April 21, 2013, 05:30:57 PM
Im a Nerd.............but a rather fashionable one at thank you very much  8)
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: deadpoolXYZ on April 21, 2013, 05:52:15 PM
So nerds win?

LOL  :cheernutz:

I chose nerds too  :P
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: MikerBarba on April 21, 2013, 07:37:11 PM
^ Why not the Greasers?...
meh, the punks are better.
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: MikerBarba on April 21, 2013, 07:37:28 PM
Cuz the Punks are Killers.
NO.
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: Walter20210 on April 21, 2013, 07:42:24 PM
xD
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: Dave on April 21, 2013, 09:44:37 PM
I would fit into the nerds that aren't smart clique.
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: Peachrocks on April 22, 2013, 04:21:47 PM
Well here's the thing, I think some of you are putting in what you'd be in real life rather than if you were in the Bullworth world.

The bullies aren't technically bullies when compared to the rest of the school. They are more like layabouts or bludgers or whatever the American equivalent is. Yeah, they bully non clique students, but so does everyone else. In terms of the storyline they don't seem to care too much about anything other than having a good time. I guess because they are the only clique who saw through Gary's obvious BS (or more likely didn't give a damn) and remained loyal to Jimmy that has a bit of an impact on my opinion.

I think the biggest factor in why the bullies aren't usual bullies is that they typically side with whoever has got power or appears to have power and Jimmy certainly didn't have it at that point in the story and I don't mean physical power like Russell has, I mean influence and popularity.

Frankly the nerds aren't the standard nerds in real life either. They are backstabbing scum and far more aggressive than most nerds and probably a big part of the reason they are picked on. It's not exactly like they can't fight back if they are armed. They aren't exactly intelligent either.

Some of the clique do fill the stereotypical role such as Bucky, Fatty and Cornelius but others like Algernon, Donald and obviously Earnest do not fill this at all and those have more power in the clique. Nerds tend to stick by those who have treated them well (because they generally have difficulty acquiring friends outside their social circle and hell even inside their social circle) and they did the exact opposite.

Having said all that, the Townies fit me the most. Despite constantly being told I was intelligent, school was pretty horrible for me because of all the social nonsense and I had to drop out. I identify with Duncan and Jerry pretty strongly.
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: SWEGTA on April 22, 2013, 04:51:48 PM
^What an excellent tomatosauce!
I agree with you 100 % on that one.

The bullies are generally potrayed as the most evil scum in history, while in this game they're quite loyal to those who are loyal to them.
They surrender when you beat their biggest guy and they remain your somewhat friends throughout the entire game.
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: Hayley on April 22, 2013, 04:54:24 PM
wordswordswords
Oh how I've missed reading your walls of texts. (。´◡`。)

On-topic, my choice should be obvious. ˘⌣˘
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: Peachrocks on April 22, 2013, 07:16:06 PM
wordswordswords
Oh how I've missed reading your walls of texts. (。´◡`。)

On-topic, my choice should be obvious. ˘⌣˘

Haha I've kept an eye on things on the boards and just haven't felt like commenting. This caught my attention. I did get GTA 4 (SWING GLITCH!), I told you on Skype but I guess you haven't checked. I posted a similar wall you might enjoy reading in the GTA 4 section under the snow storm thread that Mike posted more than a year ago.

I might have to try find your GTA videos now too :P.
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: Erik on April 22, 2013, 10:24:38 PM
Well here's the thing, I think some of you are putting in what you'd be in real life rather than if you were in the Bullworth world.

The bullies aren't technically bullies when compared to the rest of the school. They are more like layabouts or bludgers or whatever the American equivalent is. Yeah, they bully non clique students, but so does everyone else. In terms of the storyline they don't seem to care too much about anything other than having a good time. I guess because they are the only clique who saw through Gary's obvious BS (or more likely didn't give a damn) and remained loyal to Jimmy that has a bit of an impact on my opinion.

I think the biggest factor in why the bullies aren't usual bullies is that they typically side with whoever has got power or appears to have power and Jimmy certainly didn't have it at that point in the story and I don't mean physical power like Russell has, I mean influence and popularity.

Frankly the nerds aren't the standard nerds in real life either. They are backstabbing scum and far more aggressive than most nerds and probably a big part of the reason they are picked on. It's not exactly like they can't fight back if they are armed. They aren't exactly intelligent either.

Some of the clique do fill the stereotypical role such as Bucky, Fatty and Cornelius but others like Algernon, Donald and obviously Earnest do not fill this at all and those have more power in the clique. Nerds tend to stick by those who have treated them well (because they generally have difficulty acquiring friends outside their social circle and hell even inside their social circle) and they did the exact opposite.

Having said all that, the Townies fit me the most. Despite constantly being told I was intelligent, school was pretty horrible for me because of all the social nonsense and I had to drop out. I identify with Duncan and Jerry pretty strongly.

Very interesting observations.  I wish that the Townies had played a larger role in the game.  Hell they didn't even get their own chapter, since they had to share Chapter 5 with Gary and the four main cliques.  D:
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: Peachrocks on April 22, 2013, 10:43:26 PM
The Townies though were just an outside factor and weren't within the schools hierarchy so it wouldn't make sense to involve them too much. Remember that while they did share it with 4 of the cliques, all those events were caused by the Townies so really it is their chapter.

Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: BloodChuckZ on April 22, 2013, 11:10:31 PM
Very interesting and insightful observations. 

And, nice to see you again, Peach !
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: Peachrocks on April 22, 2013, 11:25:10 PM
Nice to have people appreciate what I've got to say rather than TL;DR.

How do you know if its too long if you didn't read it?

I'd do it more often but it's gotta be the right topic :).
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: Erik on April 23, 2013, 01:27:58 AM
The Townies though were just an outside factor and weren't within the schools hierarchy so it wouldn't make sense to involve them too much. Remember that while they did share it with 4 of the cliques, all those events were caused by the Townies so really it is their chapter.

And yet they're allowed to play dodge ball in the same gym that they try to burn down. :rolleyes:

I get what you mean.  Gary used the Townies because they were all he had left by Chapter 5.  Its funny how he thinks that he's a genius but spends most of the game having his lame plans foiled and only succeeds because Jimmy and the others are even dumber than he is.   :laugh:
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: Peachrocks on April 23, 2013, 02:24:25 AM
The other characters hold idiot balls. That's the only way Gary's plans work. The townies were hardly used, they had nothing to lose by following him and its not like he had much connections to begin with. Derby didn't give a stuff about him, Tad did but he had no influence, Earnest is frankly an idiot, Johnny's only interaction with Gary is 'shut up Gary' and Gary is never seen talking with any of the jocks. 

It really comes down to... 'Hey guys let's blame Jimmy for all our problems even though we don't have a shred of proof that he's responsible and has nothing to gain from it'. I'll grant you though Jimmy was acting like an ass at that stage and he did some things that go beyond idiotic to 'I'm doing this because the script says so'.

You might want to be careful bringing Gary up, it might trigger a lengthy essay or something but I've already done that somewhere here which I don't remember.
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: Erik on April 23, 2013, 02:07:46 PM
You might want to be careful bringing Gary up, it might trigger a lengthy essay or something but I've already done that somewhere here which I don't remember.

You mean this?  (BTW, I was Algie Hunter)

Does anyone think that the character would have worked better had they consolidated Gary and Petey into one person?  In other words make him sarcastic like Gary but loyal like Petey throughout most of the game, not turning on Jimmy at the end of Chapter 1.  It would've explained why Jimmy didn't go after Gary until he was expelled.  Interestingly enough, Gary's monologue at the end would have still made sense.

Actually this what I thought in my restructure except Petey would still be in the story. The biggest problem with Gary is the fact Jimmy never has any reason to go after him when you know he's an enemy.

How do you resolve this? By not making him an enemy until absolutely necessary.  This is only a very rough outline of the 'changes' but it's too long as is :P.

Simply put Gary would be made headboy in chapter 2's beginning though he has already set Jimmy up to face against Russell in the hole, though Jimmy has no idea who did that and who's spreading hearsay about what he is saying. Petey suspects Gary of something fishy but of course Jimmy as always never listens to Petey in regards to Gary.

However for Gary to keep 'order' within the cliques he uses Jimmy as his unofficial enforcer while at the same time (unknown to Jimmy obviously) gives them reasons to hate him. Jimmy then pacifies the cliques as he does in the main story. Petey is still Jimmy's 'guide' telling him to solve the problem that Gary sets out (and causes).

You might say at the end of chapter 4 is where Gary stops taking his meds. Gary then goes to the townies and gets their help to start causing problems. You ever wondered how Gurney got into the school and set the gym on fire? Gary. Not to mention there's a secret passageway inside the school by the asylum. It'd be pretty easy for him to get in undetected, especially with inside help.

Jimmy is of course accused of doing everything bad for exactly the same reason as normal. Because Gary said so. Except this time he is actually trustworthy at this point rather than a horrible liar which makes it far more believeable that people would listen to him.

This of course leads Jimmy to being expelled. Knowing that the townies caused his problems he seeks them out for a beating and upon beating Edgar the pair finally put the pieces together since Edgar realises he wasn't going to get to rule the school, or even continue to prank them because Gary had already achieved his goal of removing Jimmy and now they are an 'enemy' and therefore would no longer receive his inside help.

Then of course Gary carries out the finale as before, causing everyone to fight each other and 'turning the school into a battleground', just for kicks. He's obviously the insane lunatic now we all know and loathe :P.

A few simple changes and Gary goes from a horrible obvious see through liar who nobody would believe where the hero has to carry an idiot ball to make the plot work to a devious mastermind.

This is my own perspective:  the clique leaders secretly hated Jimmy for embarrassing them in front of their goons and the whole school, and wanted revenge in Chapter 5.  Gary and the Townies gave them an excuse to do what they already wanted to do:  kick Jimmy's ass and terrorize the school.  By the end, Gary is an afterthought (and a convenient scapegoat to blame their riot on).
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: Hayley on April 23, 2013, 02:37:41 PM
This is my own perspective:  the clique leaders secretly hated Jimmy for embarrassing them in front of their goons and the whole school, and wanted revenge in Chapter 5.
That... I like that thought.
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: BloodChuckZ on April 23, 2013, 02:59:28 PM
Well, we couldn't really expect a rational Bully plot, seeing as how it was written for 12-year-olds.
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: Erik on April 23, 2013, 04:16:04 PM
This is my own perspective:  the clique leaders secretly hated Jimmy for embarrassing them in front of their goons and the whole school, and wanted revenge in Chapter 5.
That... I like that thought.

I think that Earnest, Johnny, Derby, and Ted are also the main villains of Bully, not just Gary.  And really, Gary turns out to be the least important of the five.   :ajajaxh5:
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: Peachrocks on April 23, 2013, 05:47:52 PM
This is my own perspective:  the clique leaders secretly hated Jimmy for embarrassing them in front of their goons and the whole school, and wanted revenge in Chapter 5.
That... I like that thought.

I think that Earnest, Johnny, Derby, and Ted are also the main villains of Bully, not just Gary.  And really, Gary turns out to be the least important of the five.   :ajajaxh5:

I can't agree with that. Johnny cannot be classed as a villain because Jimmy clearly acts on him first for no good reason other than because the plot says so, Derby doesn't give a stuff about any of the politics and probably thinks its beneath him. He's an ass yes but not a villain in the strictest sense. Earnest, possibly but not a very good one and Ted has so little storyline presence aside being the stereotypical jock leader that he's not even worth mentioning.

Furthermore if they were looking for revenge because of their authority within their cliques being undermined beating Gary wouldn't resolve anything at the end of the game, yet it clearly does. The intention was clearly for them to be all played by Gary but its so clumsily done it just doesn't come off right at all.

Also the reboot you pulled out was one of two particular comments on Gary and why he's such a flawed character and how I'll never understand his popularity.

Well, we couldn't really expect a rational Bully plot, seeing as how it was written for 12-year-olds.

Irrelevant and I think the game is rated higher then that, it is at least in this country, 15+ if I'm not mistaken. I've seen great stories for things intended for 8 years or less. The most obvious example that comes to mind is the 2003 series of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. That had quite an interesting and even deep storyline at times (when it wasn't doing silly comic book super hero like based spin offs).

I just find it so incredibly odd that you have characters so detailed with loads of little details, each with their own backstories, things like Kirby's foot fetish and 'i'm totally not gay', Duncan's nerdy background and wish to fit in society or Ricky's girl problems. You can paint a lot of pictures with those things alone and they don't even come up in the main plot. Yet the main plot is full of plotholes and the villain is incredibly underdeveloped, it's just comes off as really odd to me...
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: Erik on April 23, 2013, 09:05:13 PM
I didn't mean that they were all manipulators who cared about school politics like Gary and Earnest.  You're right, Derby probably felt that he was above all that, Johnny likely didn't care, and Ted only cared about winning the big game.  But their basic personalities and attitudes would have brought them into conflict with each other and with Jimmy, even without Gary.  (Derby's rich brat's snobbery, Johnny's mad jealousy, and Ted's boneheaded arrogance.)  I really believe that Gary couldn't have forced them to do anything that they weren't planning to do anyway.  He just gave them a way to turn on Jimmy while keeping their clique members' loyalty.  By Chapter 5, Jimmy had become too popular and the four clique leaders were desperate to dethrone the 'king of the school' and restore their lost positions.  I think that their cheering for Jimmy at the end of Chapter 5 was utter bullshit, just like their supposed loyalty to him was horseshit at the beginning of Chapter 5.  The only difference was that Gary's plan had been foiled and now Jimmy also had the loyalty of the Townies and Crabblesnitch.  If the story had continued past Chapter 5, I'm sure that the four clique leaders would have tried to get back at Jimmy again.  So what I'm saying is that Earnest, Ted, Johnny, and Derby were equals of Gary's in terms of their pride and resentment of Jimmy rather than their desire to 'rule the school'.  Only Gary (and Earnest) cared about that.   ;)
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: Peachrocks on April 23, 2013, 11:27:34 PM
Fair enough. I have to agree I've never understood that cheering scene either and even my 'walls of text' can't decrypt what they were trying to get at there other than creating a happy atmosphere in which nothing honestly changes aside from anything to do with Jimmy which wasn't his point at all.

Kinda a big reason why I wouldn't want Jimmy as protagonist again, he'd just worn out his welcome IMO. I wouldn't mind the second game being set at Bullworth just to tie up those loose ends (Which can be done if Gary and Jimmy don't exist in the plot otherwise it all goes to hell).

I mean sure the plot feels questionable at times but it falls spectacularly to pieces in chapter 5 once Gary has to actually be on screen to present his 'scheme' rather than be off screen to convince the audience how devious he isn't.
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: Erik on April 24, 2013, 12:51:23 AM
Agreed.  If Rockstar returns to the Bullworth setting, Jimmy and Gary should not be in the game.  Maybe mention that Jimmy's mother remarried (again) and dragged him off to another town (or even another country).  Gary could possibly have a small part at the asylum.  (shrug)
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: Peachrocks on April 24, 2013, 01:16:26 AM
I wrote a tiny bit of a Bully 2 would be fic with a big plan and such and that's exactly what happens to those two. Jimmy only comes back at the end of the plot for 'dream match' (i.e anyone can fight anyone) fights in the hole and has minimal impact on the plot.

I just love the Bully 1 characters I wouldn't want to see them just disappear completely.
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: Evolution on April 24, 2013, 04:32:14 AM
Even though it's rare nowadays, it brings a smile to my face when members converse over Bully, just as you two did just there. That was a great read, and it's just a pure bonus when Peach puts in intelligent thoughts on it. (Like Hayley, I love your essays... And yes, I have stalked you and your posts multiple times  :ninja:)

Anyways, this has given me an idea to make another 'Thought Provoking' Bully topic.

Thanks you two  :laugh:
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: Erik on April 24, 2013, 10:10:20 AM
I'm glad that you enjoyed it.  After all, this is supposed to be a Bully-Board.   :biggrin:
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: Hayley on April 24, 2013, 10:51:45 PM
Anyways, this has given me an idea to make another 'Thought Provoking' Bully topic.
So... what/where's the topic? :V
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: Evolution on April 25, 2013, 12:05:31 AM
It's coming, it's coming.  :-\


But seriously, it is. Today. BE PREPARED FOR GREATNESS.

Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: Hayley on April 26, 2013, 07:14:19 PM
you are such a liar omg

*coughcough*
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: Evolution on April 26, 2013, 08:47:55 PM
I forgot about it, lol.

I'll post it today. Seriously.

i feel as if the topic will disappoint, but hey, it's still a topic, right? woot
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: Hayley on April 26, 2013, 08:50:58 PM
Sure ya will.

~you won't know until you post it~
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: WhenLifeGivesYouLemons on April 26, 2013, 09:05:27 PM
^ lol

there is alot of townies out there  8)
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: Erik on April 27, 2013, 12:07:45 PM
there is alot of townies out there  8)

I'm one of them.   :ninja:
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: Dave on April 27, 2013, 02:19:23 PM
I graduated from Bull Academy last June.
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: BloodChuckZ on April 27, 2013, 04:47:31 PM
Now you're in Bull College.
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: Dave on April 27, 2013, 04:56:00 PM
With Bull Food.

Okay that was lame and didn't make sense.
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: BloodChuckZ on April 27, 2013, 05:02:41 PM
Just sounds like Bull Shit.
Title: Re: What Clique Would You Fit Into?
Post by: Dave on April 27, 2013, 05:03:06 PM
That flows better.