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Bully => Anti-Bully => Topic started by: King Cobra on August 24, 2010, 08:09:13 PM
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This is supposed to be one of the most realistic war games ever made. some of the marines who were in the battle of Fallujah helped in the making. It's going through so much controversy right now that Konami left as publisher and no others will pick it up. The developer, Atomic Games said it will be coming in 2011.
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I know it. Controversial but awesome.
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The whole 2011 release date is kinda off. Why give the entire year? Rumor has it they now have an "interested publisher" for the game but won't talk. I'm losing hope, but the realistic story and graphics are holding me. I've already signed the petition giving my support. Just another pathetic fight over a good game. Atomic games didn't even think of this until the marines offered to help. So this is really a disrepect to the marines.
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If anybody is supportive, this is the link for the petition. There is 22 signatures now. That's not enough! We need more! With the amount of people on this site we could make some sort of a change in the number of signatures.
http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/support-six-days-in-fallujah.html (http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/support-six-days-in-fallujah.html)
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Did you hear about what happened with Medal of Honor? Instead of saying 'Taliban' now, they say something like 'Opposition Forces'.
Really? We can sit there and say 'Russian Terrorists' but we're afraid of the Taliban?
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This is my dream game. I want it!! I have no words to describe how fucking pathetic it is that GAMES are taken to court. Even worse, the parents don't have a truly valid reason. Its their FEELINGS!! Poor innocent children will be hurt by this or it is a major disrespect. We might as well apply this to music too. I'm irritated now. I hate the banning families and groups, but I especially hate the activists. It wasn't the store's fault for giving a kid the game, it was because the developers made it. Its just way too pathetic. I wrote my 10 page paper on this shit why it shouldn't be.
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Did you hear about what happened with Medal of Honor? Instead of saying 'Taliban' now, they say something like 'Opposition Forces'.
Really? We can sit there and say 'Russian Terrorists' but we're afraid of the Taliban?
But Russia gets less friendly to the USA. If Bieber come with Obama he can speak calmly to Medvedev.
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If Bieber can get this game released I will believe he has A USE. Right now I'm just really pissed about this. People say its a disrespect against the Marines when the Marines helped make it. Ass-backwards. Its too realistic, when realistic graphics are part of any game. Ass-backwards. The fall back reason ends up being about "innocent children". I've seen this like a perfect pattern on multiple games.
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Did you hear about what happened with Medal of Honor? Instead of saying 'Taliban' now, they say something like 'Opposition Forces'.
Really? We can sit there and say 'Russian Terrorists' but we're afraid of the Taliban?
But Russia gets less friendly to the USA. If Bieber come with Obama he can speak calmly to Medvedev.
*facepalm* Oh for Christ's sake, Bieber has no influence in politics, absolutely none. The little bastard is only 16.
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He can't do his own job in entertainment. Why would he be involved in politics? The political structure would collapse. I will always be pissed about how this game is being treated as a "negative influence". This was the first game with a true story used in making a point. People were not supposed to be entertained by this. It was to SHOW RESPECT to the Marines. The petition is useless with an amazing 21 signatures.
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*facepalm* Oh for Christ's sake, Bieber has no influence in politics, absolutely none. The little bastard is only 16.
Well, now he's 16, but at 18 or 21 he may be influential in politics, even making the US-Canada split.
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Yeah, okay. I seriously doubt it.
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I don't think he knows what politics are.
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Or he may do it unintentionally.
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Unintentionally I can see. He wouldn't see himself doing it when it happens. Doing it with intentions I don't see. I don't think he can. I see 22 signatures on the petition. WOW! We need more. A lot more for any chance.
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He can't do his own job in entertainment. Why would he be involved in politics? The political structure would collapse. I will always be pissed about how this game is being treated as a "negative influence". This was the first game with a true story used in making a point. People were not supposed to be entertained by this. It was to SHOW RESPECT to the Marines. The petition is useless with an amazing 21 signatures.
I signed. I know a few guys in the military who would actually like to see this. These are also guys that were over in Iraq/Afghanistan.
You know what the main problem is? People are afraid. They want to walk on eggshells as to not piss off the 'terrorists'. That's what it is.
I never realized that being American nowadays meant being a pushover.
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The families are trying to say this game is a disrespect to the Marines who fought in Fallujah, when the Marines actually WANTED this. So the families are really disrespecting the Marines themselves. I'm really pissed that Konami had the balls to back out. I expected more out of such a publisher. The only bad thing about this petition is that they offer an option to be anonymous. I don't see the purpose of any petition when it is filled with anonymous names. I could just type that and mail it to Atomic Games!
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I bored seeing games playing as US or it's allies. I want to play games from a different perspective like playing as terrorists, Nazis(no bashing intended), or just enemy of the US Army. Half-Life is an example where Gordon Freeman fights US Marines as well as aliens. I also enjoy playing as terrorists in Counter-Strike.
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I believe there was a game, or at least one in development that had fighting from that perspective and it went over like a fart in church. Most of the world would not tolerate a game like that. Most people want a game with good to triumpgh over evil, not the other way around. This is especially true for a game based on real life events.
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That sucks, real life is not always about the good winning... They should make tests on teenagers to see if they can make a difference between what's in real life and what's behind the screen. After what, you should be able - or not - to buy such games.
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I think their reasons are good though, there are some people that are able to seperate real from fiction. However, there are those that cannot and society generally doesn't want to depict evil in the form of terrorists and allow the unstable people to think that stuff is okay.
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Yeah, I understand that point too.
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Some people are also too optimistic too see the other side of things.
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I think their reasons are good though, there are some people that are able to seperate real from fiction. However, there are those that cannot and society generally doesn't want to depict evil in the form of terrorists and allow the unstable people to think that stuff is okay.
What about serial killers who are obsessed with and quote certain parts of the Bible that they've misinterpreted? I don't see the Bible being banned. Books are a form of media.
There was also another serial killer who was obsessed with a satirical book. The part he was obsessed with was something he twisted in his own mind - a twist the author never intended. I can't remember the book offhand. If you want to know it, I could see if I could find it ... in one of my dozens of criminal books. XD
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Yeah, usually an author has no intention of making his works a psycho's favorite. Yet, game developers have no intentions of making their games influence children.
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I believe there was a game, or at least one in development that had fighting from that perspective and it went over like a fart in church. Most of the world would not tolerate a game like that. Most people want a game with good to triumpgh over evil, not the other way around. This is especially true for a game based on real life events.
Because we have been colonized with Hollywood mentality. My son watched the Iraqi insurgency video made by those insurgents and he believe that such insurgency are right.
Also, my friend on other forum said Nazism was rightful.
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I think their reasons are good though, there are some people that are able to seperate real from fiction. However, there are those that cannot and society generally doesn't want to depict evil in the form of terrorists and allow the unstable people to think that stuff is okay.
What about serial killers who are obsessed with and quote certain parts of the Bible that they've misinterpreted? I don't see the Bible being banned. Books are a form of media.
There was also another serial killer who was obsessed with a satirical book. The part he was obsessed with was something he twisted in his own mind - a twist the author never intended. I can't remember the book offhand. If you want to know it, I could see if I could find it ... in one of my dozens of criminal books. XD
I think the difference here is the fact that certain books including the Bible have already been written. With the development of games, people are probably trying to stop something before it is available to psychos. They probably figure that if they see a bad omen coming, they could at least try and stop it before its "too late".
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The only issue with that is that it ruins everything for those who aren't psychos. The ones who just want the book or game now have to lose it for someone else.
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I think their reasons are good though, there are some people that are able to seperate real from fiction. However, there are those that cannot and society generally doesn't want to depict evil in the form of terrorists and allow the unstable people to think that stuff is okay.
What about serial killers who are obsessed with and quote certain parts of the Bible that they've misinterpreted? I don't see the Bible being banned. Books are a form of media.
There was also another serial killer who was obsessed with a satirical book. The part he was obsessed with was something he twisted in his own mind - a twist the author never intended. I can't remember the book offhand. If you want to know it, I could see if I could find it ... in one of my dozens of criminal books. XD
I think the difference here is the fact that certain books including the Bible have already been written. With the development of games, people are probably trying to stop something before it is available to psychos. They probably figure that if they see a bad omen coming, they could at least try and stop it before its "too late".
Okay, we don't create new media, but we let them fall back on what's already there.
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I never said it was right, but I think that's the reasoning behind it.
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The banning of media like books is very similar to game controversy, maybe the same. When people feel it will cause a negative influence, they fight it. That's what happened to 6 Days In Fallujah. People felt the game was based on "too early of a battle". Pressure from families and news media, and Konami dropped out. Now those who are fighting 6 Days, are a bunch of bastards who want sympathy and to make others just as miserable as they are. The banning of media such as games or books is pointless, the fights are used for attention and to ruin others. I see it as a humiliation to be taking games to court when there is much more important shit out there in society.
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I never said it was right, but I think that's the reasoning behind it.
Oh no, that was just my answer in regards to people who think that way, not towards you.
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I've done A LOT of digging for this game. There is a load of rumors going around about its completion and intentions to be published with a new, unknown publisher. It was supposed to come out last year but now its this year. There's barely a crew left in Atomic Games though because of their lay offs. I'm supporting this game all the way. I hate the way people treat games and their developers like the fucking plague. The fights are pointless. They have THE RIGHT to not buy any game and live their lives like civil people but they do this shit anyway. This is why I'm so radical towards my games. I last saw 22 sigs on the petition. Not enough. This is a link to a article on the Iraq War Veterans who support this game. That I'm aware of some have already signed the petition.
http://www.destructoid.com/iraq-war-veterans-support-six-days-in-fallujah-128248.phtml (http://www.destructoid.com/iraq-war-veterans-support-six-days-in-fallujah-128248.phtml)