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Title: Unused model Doberman_dog.ntf/nif?
Post by: Walter20210 on July 31, 2012, 08:42:10 AM
Unused model.
I think he removed because: imagine a doberman attacking Jimmy D:
(I think the dog could be a boss)probably.... (Just joking :P)

Video:Bully SE : Unused dog model (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_xa-Nkqtps&feature=plcp#)
(http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/9617/2e1151ce13c14c54bdf12f2.png)
(http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/7133/41710d82f4844184a2afcd8.png)
(http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/2512/1959f5c8387d44d0bc89c2e.png)
Title: Re: Unused model Doberman_dog.ntf/nif?
Post by: xXxNarumi on July 31, 2012, 08:48:58 AM
Unused model.
I think he removed because: imagine a doberman attacking Jimmy :0
(I think the dog could be a boss)probably....

[Nerfing links long message reason.]

I think Rockstar took it out cause it was meant for the BETA.
(I highly think it was a test. Not cause of attacking reason.)
Alot of models and stores were removed from BULLY,
 we will never understand why rock star cancels their beta's.
Title: Re: Unused model Doberman_dog.ntf/nif?
Post by: Walter20210 on July 31, 2012, 08:55:29 AM
It would be fun to fight with a Doberman :D
I did not find an animation/style  :hmm:
Title: Re: Unused model Doberman_dog.ntf/nif?
Post by: xXxNarumi on July 31, 2012, 09:11:43 AM
It would be fun to fight with a Doberman :D
I did not find an animation/style  :hmm:

The animation been removed by now.
And I'm sure it fought like the other dogs but stronger and bark louder.
Title: Re: Unused model Doberman_dog.ntf/nif?
Post by: Binky on July 31, 2012, 09:35:52 AM
Just a suggestion; If someone could deepen the usual voice file & fix the model as it is in the picture, could it be used in game?
Title: Re: Unused model Doberman_dog.ntf/nif?
Post by: UltimateGamer1 on July 31, 2012, 10:56:58 AM
Someone can replace the nif with that picture and it could look like a real doberman.
Title: Re: Unused model Doberman_dog.ntf/nif?
Post by: SWEGTA on July 31, 2012, 01:22:59 PM
Shame really.
It would have added more "realism" to the game itself.
Instead of just having 1 type of dog roam entire Bullworth.
Title: Re: Unused model Doberman_dog.ntf/nif?
Post by: xXxNarumi on July 31, 2012, 01:29:24 PM
Shame really.
It would have added more "realism" to the game itself.
Instead of just having 1 type of dog roam entire Bullworth.

Same on the dorm
Male dorm would be as big as the females but it was a test beta and they took alot of stuff out.
 Such as model mods we still don't have the tool or can get it from the doberman.
Best suggestion to texture the skin over the dogs.
Title: Re: Unused model Doberman_dog.ntf/nif?
Post by: SWEGTA on July 31, 2012, 01:41:50 PM
Shame really.
It would have added more "realism" to the game itself.
Instead of just having 1 type of dog roam entire Bullworth.

Same on the dorm
Male dorm would be as big as the females but it was a test beta and they took alot of stuff out.
 Such as model mods we still don't have the tool or can get it from the doberman.
Best suggestion to texture the skin over the dogs.

Yeah, it's a real pain to live in such a small dorm.
There aren't enough room for everyone!
I can imagine Russel sleeping outside with Earnest, Pete and Kirby.
Title: Re: Unused model Doberman_dog.ntf/nif?
Post by: xXxNarumi on July 31, 2012, 10:11:53 PM
Shame really.
It would have added more "realism" to the game itself.
Instead of just having 1 type of dog roam entire Bullworth.

Same on the dorm
Male dorm would be as big as the females but it was a test beta and they took alot of stuff out.
 Such as model mods we still don't have the tool or can get it from the doberman.
Best suggestion to texture the skin over the dogs.

Yeah, it's a real pain to live in such a small dorm.
There aren't enough room for everyone!
I can imagine Russel sleeping outside with Earnest, Pete and Kirby.

Lol I actually think Rockstar didn't think this thru when they made the game unrealistic on room caps.
Title: Re: Unused model Doberman_dog.ntf/nif?
Post by: SWEGTA on August 01, 2012, 03:39:28 AM
The size of this dorm is to damn small!
Title: Re: Unused model Doberman_dog.ntf/nif?
Post by: j. on August 01, 2012, 11:25:43 AM
hmm, i think this model was just a test for the beta.
Title: Re: Unused model Doberman_dog.ntf/nif?
Post by: MadmaN on August 01, 2012, 12:21:15 PM
I might be able to get the doberman working again since I already managed to get the full panda suit working with no flaws....just by changing a couple small things.

and a FYI, the doberman used the standard dog animations the other dog in bullworth uses and if I remember correctly...the same bark sounds too but the pitches I think can be changed via lua but I would have to investigate that one further.
Title: Re: Unused model Doberman_dog.ntf/nif?
Post by: Carlosvc92 on August 01, 2012, 01:56:52 PM
I think I was one of the first people to find this doberman, along with beta Gord, and three others that have a name but don't show up in nifskope. If you've read my comics, this doberman was actually a rottweiler in one of my stories because it looks fatter when replaced with another dog. Also, I talked to Mad a while back about trying to get the actual model to work without it being fat so that I can re texture it into a German Shepherd for the cops and a dalmatian for O'Rourke the fireman.
Title: Re: Unused model Doberman_dog.ntf/nif?
Post by: Binky on August 01, 2012, 02:47:42 PM
^What other characters did you find?
Title: Re: Unused model Doberman_dog.ntf/nif?
Post by: Carlosvc92 on August 01, 2012, 04:14:44 PM
apparently Sheldon with a gym outfit, grappler, striker but the files are not visible on nifskope.
Title: Re: Unused model Doberman_dog.ntf/nif?
Post by: Binky on August 01, 2012, 05:28:56 PM
Hmm I'm really curious to the full extend of 'Beta Bully' which was scrapped :hmm:
Title: Re: Unused model Doberman_dog.ntf/nif?
Post by: Walter20210 on August 01, 2012, 06:22:46 PM
I think the dog does not use the same animation because I just change the model and put the dog of the picture

@Madman
I think you have to make a new Animation/Style
To work fine and don't have a fat dog
Title: Re: Unused model Doberman_dog.ntf/nif?
Post by: Walter20210 on August 01, 2012, 06:33:29 PM
:$
(http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/9891/074660cfa98a41d6b49d5ad.png)
WTF is that !!!??
Title: Re: Unused model Doberman_dog.ntf/nif?
Post by: MadmaN on August 02, 2012, 02:35:49 AM
that pic is gary's ss uniform he wears on halloween if I don't miss my guess.

I have every single texture in bully in the original .dds formats already organized exactly as rockstar had them when developing the game if anyone wants me to upload them.

You have to download a special plugin for photoshop to edit the files directly..but they have to be exported back to .tga before bully will actually use them.

and on the doberman...I stand by what I said since I was talking to a contact of mine from rockstar and he confirmed what I asked him about it.

I should be able to use lua scripting to actually reactivate that particular model and bring it ingame how it should be.

It is last on my list atm due to all the mods I am about to release to everyone.
Title: Re: Unused model Doberman_dog.ntf/nif?
Post by: Walter20210 on August 02, 2012, 08:55:59 AM
ok :D
Title: Re: Unused model Doberman_dog.ntf/nif?
Post by: Carlosvc92 on August 05, 2012, 07:07:30 AM
I'll be retextuting this doggie into a german shepherd soon, and perhaps spawn it with the cops in my series, Idk if I'll also make him a dalmatian and spawn it with the fireman because the ears are sticking up like thorns lol
Title: Re: Unused model Doberman_dog.ntf/nif?
Post by: xXxNarumi on August 30, 2012, 09:12:49 PM
Really real reason why its removed long time ago i remember a guy who knew lots about Rockstar games, he said.
The Doberman was removed right after the punks faction got merged.
So the Doberman was factions with the punks as a blooded killer or something.
That is why the Doberman was disabled due to the punks being removed and no blooded killer faction are closes to the punks,(townies kinda are though)


Bully Beta Russell Punk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15BqSZpx5m0&playnext=1&list=PL6E534EA05E7E53CB&feature=results_main#)

How ever I noticed the townies has some connections of being the punks and Russell.
Russell use to be the punks if I'm right cause Russell got his one attack disabled/ possible removed and was kept for the townies.
 Who knows what happened at that Dark day of Bully Beta didn't make it out to be in this day but I can say Russell and the townies has some connections with being the Punks factions.

Power move was replaced as Punched to the Kidney used by Townies now.
Title: Re: Unused model Doberman_dog.ntf/nif?
Post by: SWEGTA on August 31, 2012, 02:35:42 AM
If Russell was a townie, he'd be locked up in Happy Volts.
Title: Re: Unused model Doberman_dog.ntf/nif?
Post by: xXxNarumi on August 31, 2012, 02:44:19 AM
If Russell was a townie, he'd be locked up in Happy Volts.

Russell was a punk so was the townies.
If im right russell was still a leader and Edgar never existed or was a right hand leader
Title: Re: Unused model Doberman_dog.ntf/nif?
Post by: Binky on August 31, 2012, 07:04:37 AM
1. The kid in the video looked like Bryce
2. Where are all these beta vids from? I know it says Milkerbarba but where did he find them?
Title: Re: Unused model Doberman_dog.ntf/nif?
Post by: xXxNarumi on August 31, 2012, 07:37:26 AM
Don't remember but he has all that was in there.
The main guy I got all the Rockstar beta from (which was only offered to limit people to see.)
Removed his site cause he originally had some type of connections with rockstar old beta tester and such so he only offered it to like 10k people to see only.
He showed Sid style he fights like Russell kinda and had types of grabs that includes break bones.
Punks were mean blooded killers that just the type who wanted to kill people.
Title: Re: Unused model Doberman_dog.ntf/nif?
Post by: -мα∂нαттяιยขк- on August 31, 2012, 08:40:37 AM
http://www.tylersart.com/bully.html (http://www.tylersart.com/bully.html)

http://www.sotayuyama.com/Sota_Yuyama_Portfolio/Animation_Archives/Animation_Archives.html (http://www.sotayuyama.com/Sota_Yuyama_Portfolio/Animation_Archives/Animation_Archives.html)
Title: Re: Unused model Doberman_dog.ntf/nif?
Post by: xXxNarumi on August 31, 2012, 09:02:26 AM
If only BULLY Beta made it out that day it would been so cool.
Except the graphics lighting how everyone noses are red and such.
Title: Re: Unused model Doberman_dog.ntf/nif?
Post by: SWEGTA on August 31, 2012, 04:43:15 PM
Fatty and Melvin just look so gross..
Title: Re: Unused model Doberman_dog.ntf/nif?
Post by: deadpoolXYZ on August 31, 2012, 07:46:49 PM
If Russell was a townie, he'd be locked up in Happy Volts.

Russell was a punk so was the townies.
If im right russell was still a leader and Edgar never existed or was a right hand leader

Check this out:

DOLead_Edgar....DOLead_Edgar_W

DOlead_Russell..DOlead_Russell_W

This can be found in the ide.img

DOlead means Dropout leader. Maybe russell was supposed to be the original leader of the dropout faction and had a different outfit. Why didn't ther call him BULead_Russell or something like that?
Title: Re: Unused model Doberman_dog.ntf/nif?
Post by: xXxNarumi on August 31, 2012, 07:52:37 PM
I always wondered that.
So I wonder did the Bully ever existed and such.
Man, if only we can demand rockstar for the beta Im so fucking curious on factions.
Was bully ever a faction? was Edgar around? etc.
Title: Re: Unused model Doberman_dog.ntf/nif?
Post by: deadpoolXYZ on August 31, 2012, 07:54:26 PM
I always wondered that.
So I wonder did the Bully ever existed and such.
Man, if only we can demand rockstar for the beta Im so fucking curious on factions.
Was bully ever a faction? was Edgar around? etc.

I have no doubt that bully was one of the original factions planned for the game. It wouldn't make sence to make a game called "bully" with no bullies around.
Title: Re: Unused model Doberman_dog.ntf/nif?
Post by: xXxNarumi on August 31, 2012, 08:02:15 PM
I always wondered that.
So I wonder did the Bully ever existed and such.
Man, if only we can demand rockstar for the beta Im so fucking curious on factions.
Was bully ever a faction? was Edgar around? etc.

I have no doubt that bully was one of the original factions planned for the game. It wouldn't make sence to make a game called "bully" with no bullies around.

Punks were the original bullies but very mean.
They the type would break people bones and stuff and Russell (beta boss)
 and the townies using that Kidney punch has some connections with Punks.
Closes I can get to that, the guy who owned the site about ROCKSTAR Games beta
 knew more but since I never played bully at the time.
 I was skimming thru bully beta comments he wrote and went back reading about GTA 3 BETA.
I wish i had read thru it now I wont ever know anything and will have to predict this.

Also if I remember the male dorm was bigger , more factions were shown, Bob had his real clothes other then the Gym outfit, and bosses would be around free roam.
Title: Re: Unused model Doberman_dog.ntf/nif?
Post by: UltimateGamer1 on August 31, 2012, 09:14:30 PM
All of the bullies cliques were students before they were a faction and Russell was the leader of the dropouts and punks.
Title: Re: Unused model Doberman_dog.ntf/nif?
Post by: xXxNarumi on August 31, 2012, 09:19:34 PM
Sounds about right.
Welp, ima go play saints row 1 my fav xbox 360 game.
I just wish Volition would continue saints row 1 engine instead of them copying GTA4 ENGINE.
Title: Re: Unused model Doberman_dog.ntf/nif?
Post by: Red Blaster on September 01, 2012, 12:32:35 AM
I have no doubt that bully was one of the original factions planned for the game. It wouldn't make sence to make a game called "bully" with no bullies around.

Your doubt is off. =P

The bullies in the game, aside from Russell, were non-clique students who were more aggressive than others.
Title: Re: Unused model Doberman_dog.ntf/nif?
Post by: xXxNarumi on September 01, 2012, 12:44:28 AM
It would be a miracle if Rockstar actually was creating all the Games beta and released it.
I would get GTA 3 BETA and Bully SE Beta.