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Anti-Bully / Does Thompson ever quit?
« on: October 23, 2006, 12:56:28 AM »
Jack Thompson Says He is Running for “Bully” Judge’s Seat
Sunday, October 22nd, 2006
Game-bashing attorney Jack Thompson claims to throwing his hat into the political ring.

In a lengthy press release issued on Thursday, the controversial attorney says that he plans to run for a judgeship on the Eleventh Judicial Circuit in Miami. If that court sounds familiar to GamePolitics readers, it’s because the Bully court case has been playing out there in recent weeks before Judge Ronald Friedman.

In fact, it’s Friedman’s seat which Thompson hopes to claim in the 2008 election.  Thompson has been harshly critical of Judge Friedman in the wake of the jurist’s decision not to block the release of Bully. Thompson had sought to have the game declared a “public nuisance.”

Circuit court judges in Florida are elected for six-year terms. The outspoken attorney says he is announcing his candidacy early in order to raise sufficient campaign money.

However, a source familiar with the Miami judiciary speculated that Thompson’s announced candidacy could also be a tactic designed to force Judge Friedman to recuse himself from the Bully case, for which additional motions are pending - including, apparently, one filed by opposing counsel which seeks to hold Thompson in contempt.

Will we be calling Jack Thompson “Your Honor?”

Only time will tell.

NIMF, Walsh, Educators Urge “Bully” Boycott
Saturday, October 21st, 2006
The furor over Bully won’t be going away any time soon as several well-respected educational and child advocacy organizations appear to be joining the fight.

As reported by the Boston Globe, Dr. David Walsh, president of the National Institute on Media & Family, has weighed in on the Bully controversy. Walsh told the newspaper:

“We don’t think this game is appropriate for kids of any age. It glamorizes and rewards the kind of anti social behaviors that teachers struggle with every day… In one scene, the so-called hero sits in a tree like a sniper. Instead of a firearm, he has a slingshot. His target is the football team… This is an example of the inadequacy of the rating system…”

NIMF is warning parents off of Bully and urging retailers not to sell the game to teens.

Marlene Snyder, a national training coordinator for the Olweus Bullying Prevention Program at Clemson University in South Carolina, expressed concerns that Bully takes place in school and that it deals with interpersonal relationships rather than with inanimate objects:

“Because it’s torn from a teen’s real life, it becomes a how-to manual. In a world of escalating violence, this is not the message we need to be giving kids.”

Barbara Coloroso, author of The Bully, the Bullied & the Bystander, told the Globe:

“For a young kid who’s been relentlessly tormented, afraid to go to school, socially isolated, the game provides a kind of comfort: `Yes! This guy gets back at them!’ …the more they play, the more the neural pathways in the brain connect violence to pleasure.”

The Globe piece also dings Rockstar spokesman Rodney Walker for an interview posture described as “not forthcoming.”

The article also cites a Jack Thompson letter to the ESRB which urges the ratings board to change Bully from a T (13 and older) to an M (17 and older). Thompson’s letter is described by the newspaper as “forceful.”  Forceful, indeed. Addressed to ESRB head Patricia Vance, Thompson’s letter includes the following “forceful” excerpts:

“Take-Two has just had sex with the Lady holding the scales of Justice.”
“You, Ms. Vance, now have a really, really, really  serious problem… you’re pwned.”
“You’re broken, Ms. Vance, and we’re going to fix you.”
“Fraud has been committed, and the price therefore is going to be exacted, not upon me but upon you and Take-Two, your constant ratings scandal companion.”  
“I would suggest that you stop primping for photo ops and do your job, while you still have it.  You have until Wednesday, Ms. Vance, then all Hell is going to break loose.”

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Bully 1 Discussion / TODAY is when Gamers all REJOICE!!!!!!!!!
« on: October 13, 2006, 04:02:04 PM »
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!
JACK THOMPSON GOT PWNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D :D :D :D :D

While Niero is at the courthouse, he’s asked me to blog this for you, so that we can get the information out as soon as humanly possible.

At 1:51, Niero called, saying that the judge will not prohibit the the sale of Bully. In the time that he played the game, the judge said that he did not see anything so violent that would require the game to be held from being shipped. The judge and Take Two employee used a cheat code in order to skip around in the game and play through various parts, including the more graphic portions of the game. The judge said “There’s nothing in the game that you wouldn’t see on TV every night,” and that he “wouldn’t want his kids to play the game, but that shouldn’t mean that the game won’t ship.”

According to Niero, the courthouse got pretty heated, and at one point, the judge had to ask Mr. Thompson to sit down. Thompson was saying to the judge that this is not just a hearing, and was complaining that he didn’t get to actually sit down and play the game. Yet, a Take Two spokesman said that the judge, Mr. Thompson, and an employee all got to see gameplay. A total of two hours, actually. Also, Mr. Thompson silenced his “expert witness” when he was going to say something during the judge’s ruling. The judge said that Mr. Thompson could appeal his case to the 3rd Appellate Court, but Mr. Thompson expressed no interest in doing so, since it would be after the game had shipped.

That’s the immediate word that I got from Niero. He’ll be back in the office within a half hour or so to update. He’s getting some clarifications and all, and he’ll have a follow-up post later today. Gamers rejoice! Once again we are protected by level headed judges!

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Anti-Bully / Damn you Jack Thompson!!!! Damn you to hell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« on: October 11, 2006, 07:24:43 PM »
BREAKING - Miami Court Orders Take-Two to Turn Over “Bully”
October 11th, 2006
GamePolitics has just received a short e-mail from Jack Thompson:

“The court ordered production of the game by tomorrow at 3pm, for his full review of the game while it is being played, up to or more than 100 hours.”

“This is unprecedented and reasonable as well. This is a huge victory against the violent video game industry, regardless of the ultimate ruling on the injunction. I anticipate an immediate appeal to the Third DCA by Take-Two”

Thompson is referencing Florida’s Third District Court of Appeal. He is correct that the ruling is unprecedented, although in the long run it’s really not a win if it gets overturned on appeal.

GP has confirmed with Judge Friedman’s clerk that Thompson’s version is correct. She added that the Judge will view the game in chambers beginning tomorrow afternoon and is prepared to spend several days watching its content.

The clerk added that the hearing was not contentious, and that it was covered by the Miami Herald as well as a local TV news crew.

What this means is that Judge Ronald Friedman is saying he needs to see Bully in order to rule on Thompson’s claim that the game is a “public nuisance.” He’s given Take-Two 24 hours to produce it for the court’s review.

Destructoid has a brief report from their man-on-the-scene…


UPDATE: Witnesses Named in “Bully” Court Case
October 11th, 2006

If nothing else, Jack Thompson can say he hauled Bully into court.

Later today, attorneys for publisher Take-Two Interactive along with those representing retailers GameStop and Wal-Mart will appear in a Miami courtroom to defend Rockstar’s upcoming game from Thompson’s unprecedented bid to have its sale blocked in Florida.

Thompson’s claim that Bully constitutes a public nuisance will be heard by Judge Ronald Friedman. The Florida statute in question defines such a nuisance as something that:

tends to annoy the community, or…
injures the health of the citizens in general, or…
corrupts the public morals
Such laws are commonly used against brothels and gambling operations. Applying the regulation to a video game is certainly new - and rather dubious - legal territory.

Last Friday Thompson offered to cancel today’s hearing if Take-Two would overnight him a copy of Bully for him to evaluate. Obviously, that didn’t happen. Game blog Destructoid will apparently have someone covering the 1:30 hearing, so check there for eyewitness reports.

UPDATE: Thompson has circulated an e-mail to GamePolitics and other news outlets naming two “expert witnesses” he plans to call today. They are:

Dr. Eugene Provenzo, University of Miami professor; in 2005 Dr. Provenzo told GP that he and Thompson were collaborating on a book called, oddly enough, Public Nuisance: A Primer for Social Activists. No word on where that project stands.
Kenneth Harms, former Miami Police Chief from 1978-1984
Here is the latest legal brief filed by Thompson in relation to the Bully case.


   
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Anti-Bully / Damn you Jack Thompson!!!! Damn you to hell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« on: October 11, 2006, 06:30:12 PM »
BREAKING - Miami Court Orders Take-Two to Turn Over “Bully”
October 11th, 2006
GamePolitics has just received a short e-mail from Jack Thompson:

“The court ordered production of the game by tomorrow at 3pm, for his full review of the game while it is being played, up to or more than 100 hours.”

“This is unprecedented and reasonable as well.  This is a huge victory against the violent video game industry, regardless of the ultimate ruling on the injunction.  I anticipate an immediate appeal to the Third DCA by Take-Two”

Thompson is referencing Florida’s Third District Court of Appeal.  He is correct that the ruling is unprecedented, although in the long run it’s really not a win if it gets overturned on appeal.

GP has confirmed with Judge Friedman’s clerk that Thompson’s version is correct. She added that the Judge will view the game in chambers beginning tomorrow afternoon and is prepared to spend several days watching its content.

The clerk added that the hearing was not contentious, and that it was covered by the Miami Herald as well as a local TV news crew.

What this means is that Judge Ronald Friedman is saying he needs to see Bully in order to rule on Thompson’s claim that the game is a “public nuisance.” He’s given Take-Two 24 hours to produce it for the court’s review.

Destructoid has a brief report from their man-on-the-scene…


UPDATE: Witnesses Named in “Bully” Court Case
October 11th, 2006

If nothing else, Jack Thompson can say he hauled Bully into court.

Later today, attorneys for publisher Take-Two Interactive along with those representing retailers GameStop and Wal-Mart will appear in a Miami courtroom to defend Rockstar’s upcoming game from Thompson’s unprecedented bid to have its sale blocked in Florida.

Thompson’s claim that Bully constitutes a public nuisance will be heard by Judge Ronald Friedman. The Florida statute in question defines such a nuisance as something that:

tends to annoy the community, or…
injures the health of the citizens in general, or…
corrupts the public morals
Such laws are commonly used against brothels and gambling operations. Applying the regulation to a video game is certainly new - and rather dubious - legal territory.

Last Friday Thompson offered to cancel today’s hearing if Take-Two would overnight him a copy of Bully for him to evaluate. Obviously, that didn’t happen. Game blog Destructoid will apparently have someone covering the 1:30 hearing, so check there for eyewitness reports.

UPDATE: Thompson has circulated an e-mail to GamePolitics and other news outlets naming two “expert witnesses” he plans to call today. They are:

Dr. Eugene Provenzo, University of Miami professor; in 2005 Dr. Provenzo told GP that he and Thompson were collaborating on a book called, oddly enough, Public Nuisance: A Primer for Social Activists. No word on where that project stands.
Kenneth Harms, former Miami Police Chief from 1978-1984
Here is the latest legal brief filed by Thompson in relation to the Bully case.


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Anti-Bully / Jack Is At It Again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« on: October 02, 2006, 10:02:32 AM »
http://gamepolitics.com/



Bully Hearing Scheduled in Miami
October 2nd, 2006
Bully has a date in court with Jack Thompson.

The anti-game activist attorney has forwarded GP a hearing notice from Judge Ronald Friedman of Florida’s 11th Circuit Court, which covers Miami-Dade County. In that document Judge Friedman notifies Bully publisher Take-Two Interactive and retailers Wal-Mart and GameStop that a hearing will be held on October 11th

GamePolitics readers may recall that Thompson filed suit against Bully on August 15th, saying:

“Bully will lead to increased bullying in our schools… Marketing and selling a school bullying virtual reality simulator to school children… is preparing at-risk students here and elsewhere for another Columbine.”

During next week’s proceedings, the court is expected to hear legal arguments regarding Thompson’s unprecedented request to block the game’s release on October 17th.

Thompson amended his complaint on August 31st to, among other changes, include retailer GameStop as a defendant.

The controversial Miami attorney posted the hearing notice in the comments section of a recent Joystiq article.

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Bully 1 Discussion / GIRLS, GIRLS, GIRLS new preview from UGO
« on: October 01, 2006, 02:34:25 AM »
Lindsay Lohan, Winona Ryder, Sissy Spacek and everyone you've ever known can tell you that high school's a real bitch. Unless you're home-schooled - and trust us, in the long run, that's worse - it's just a miserable hurdle we all have to jump if we want to get to college, where the beer is.

Your high school was a jungle, and Bullworth Academy is no different. The girls are mean, the boys are crude, the headmaster is a cranky fun-miser. Fortunately, we've put together these helpful tips to get the new girls of Bullworth Academy through the next few years unscathed.




1. Go slow with the boys of Bullworth



Get ready to party like it's 1899 - the boys of Bullworth don't respond well to the fast and loose dating habits of the modern teenage girl. Withhold your tender kiss until he makes with the flowers and chocolates. If your suitor is less than forthcoming with gifts, don't be afraid to demand - er, ask for it - these boys are most interested in the girls they have to work for. That doesn't mean some boys won't try to get your time before they pony up a dime - or even get to know you. Just ignore those lazy cheapskates, and if they try to get fresh, their only reward will be the sight of you walking away.

2. Steer clear of Lola



Lola is ... what's the word? A skank. She wears five pounds of makeup to disguise her bad skin, and she's made out with at least half the senior class - or so the rumor goes . Knowing Lola, it's probably a rumor she started herself. She's usually dating Johnny Vincent, and she's into the bad boy thing, but in a pinch she'll go after anything that moves. Keep yourself - and any male you'd like to claim as your own - as far off her radar as possible.

3. No fighting in the girls' dorm



Avoid getting into fights in the dorms - you'll have enough trouble dealing with the boys at school without making enemies of your best chums. With dating codes too strict for your grandmother to follow, draconian beauty regimens, and studying enough to make your mama proud, who has the time for catfights? You and your girls need to stick together.4. Maintain a clear complexion



Beatrice is really smart, generous, and kind. She's often found helping the younger students with their homework. Tragically, she has braces, acne, and frequent cold sores. In high school, all the generosity in the world can't save you from such a trifecta of social death sentences. You'll usually find Beatrice crying somewhere, a victim of the popular kids' war against the gross and the oily. To avoid her plight, adopt a strict routine of cleansing, toning and moisturizing - and don't hang out with the dorks in the library like Beatrice.

5. This season's look at Bullworth Academy.... Check, preferably in green!



The Bullworth Check is a timeless style... as though you have a choice. Uniforms aren't the end of the world. Sure, you'll look like everyone else, but at least you know if you keep yourself clean, you'll be hotter than Beatrice. If that's not enough for you, get your hands on a copy of the dress code and look for loopholes like it's your job.

6. Make nice with Mandy



Mandy is thin, pretty, a Bullhorns cheerleader, and she's been dating quarterback Ted Thompson since the beginning of time. Whether the students and teachers love her or fear her is irrelevant - it amounts to the same thing: Mandy can and does get away with anything. Stay on her good side at any cost. She's cold as ice and not very pleasant to be around, but you'll have to kiss her skinny butt like your social life depends on it. It basically does. 7. Study hard



Guys at Bullworth Academy think studying isn't cool, but you know there are one or two things more important than being cool. The boys in school may drive you crazy now, but use your fury to get ahead. Study your little heart out and picture those jerks pumping your gas when you're all grown up.

8. Be choosy with the boys



Be selective, lest your magical first kiss coincide neatly with your magical first write-up on the wall of the boys' bathroom. Make sure your lips touch only the most worthy boy - one who has showered you with plenty of attention and plenty of bling. Remember the flowers? The chocolates? If he's serious about winning your heart, you'll know you can get a little cozy without getting a reputation.

9. NEVER tolerate rough stuff from the boys



Adopt a zero tolerance policy on tomfoolery. If one of the Bullworth boys tries to pinch your bottom, don't stop to wonder who pinches bottoms, just kick him where the sun don't shine and run to the headmaster. You'll be doing him a favor - it's a lesson he should learn now, before he tries that act in the real world and gets fired from his go-nowhere job.

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Bully 1 Discussion / Preview from UGO
« on: September 30, 2006, 08:11:19 PM »
Let's put the controversy aside, shall we? The game is called Bully, it's set in a high school, and it's made by Rockstar, the house that Grand Theft Auto built. It's pretty obvious why there were concerns the moment the game was announced. The Jack Thompsons of the world were drooling at the mouth thinking that this would be the game to end all games. In the end, it's hardly that objectionable.

Bully places you in the role of Jimmy, a troublemaker that's been through more schools than head lice. He's not bad, per se, but he's not exactly one to play by the rules. Bullworth Academy, a boarding school set in a fictional New England town, is his last chance...but it ain't gonna be pretty.

The game opens up with your drive up to the front gates. Rather than license music, Rockstar opted to orchestrate a wholly original score, giving the game's music a Rushmore meets Harry Potter vibe. As you approach the gates, the school's theme kicks up, and you're immediately lead into the headmaster's office to learn the ropes of the school. After that, you're free to cruise around the halls, checking out the student body and learning all the good hiding places.

Much of Bully is mission-based, not unlike GTA. Of course, the content of these missions is very different, so don't expect to be cooking up any hallucinogens in chemistry class. Instead, you'll be doing activities more appropriate for your age, saving geeks from bullies, getting in good with the girls and, of course, going to class. All of these missions introduce you to the varied student population, who are as interesting as some of the characters you met in Vice City or San Andreas. There's the disgusting cafeteria cook, the power-hungry student, the dumb-as-a-rock head of the bullies. All of these are individually voice-acted and unique to the point where you won't see a single "clone" walking around school.

Classes obviously play a big part in Bully, but thankfully they're not quite the drag they are in real life. Each of the game's classes, from phys ed to English to chemistry, is basically a mini-game. English, for example, is a version of the popular online game, TextTwist, making a certain number of words out of a set of letters. Chemistry is more of a rhythm game where you'll hit certain buttons as they scroll across the screen to add different ingredients. Succeeding in classes isn't just for keeping out of trouble. You'll actually unlock new abilities. For example, acing English allows you to apologize more effectively, getting you out of trouble when you're caught. Chemistry unlocks the ability to create firecrackers and other useful tools in the comfort of your dorm room.

The main story mode of Bully is separated into several chapters, with the entire game taking place over a single school year. As you start out in fall, you'll see Halloween signs and fallen leaves, but once winter kicks in you'll have to deal with snow and cold weather. Progressing in the game also unlocks new parts of the map, allowing you to explore the town outside the school grounds. Many of the game's missions will take place here, and you'll also find clothing and barber shops to give yourself a new style.

As for actual bullying of weaker, more helpless students, the game definitely discourages it. You can still give nerds wedgies, but punching a girl or throwing a firecracker at a teacher will result in immediate capture and punishment. Punishment, in the game as in real life, is grueling. Bully features a series of mind-numbingly dull mini-games for punishment, such as shoveling snow (repeatedly hitting the square button for five minutes) or mowing the football field (going up and down, up and down, over and over). You do not want to cause trouble in this school...or at the very least you don't want to get caught.

Despite all the flimflam about Bully and its potential bastardization of society as a whole, it's really just the story about a kid fighting for those that can't fight for themselves. There's very little violence (no one actually dies), and what is there is limited to the why-are-you-hitting-yourself variety. Overall though, it's unique and has the Rockstar polish, which is unrivaled in the gaming industry.






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Bully 1 Discussion / The Countdown For Bully
« on: September 29, 2006, 12:42:22 AM »
Oh man, I've been waitin' for this moment for 1 whole year!
Its time for da final countdown!!!! YYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHHAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D :D :D :D :D

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